But this is how it is currently. WoW has and had, and will have a focus on conflict. That a couple of side-characters not even part of the questline and that are there for mostly just immersion/filling out the world happened to be for example, gay, or in Pelagos’s case, trans, doesn’t stop the core story from working.
I’d say it doesn’t harm the world or setting whatsoever, and doesn’t impact the game or anyone negatively at all, but it can provide some nice feelings for some people.
Basically, nothing is lost for such inclusions, but some is gained.
Where have I talked about you? That’s an assumption you’re making. I -NEVER- said anything ABOUT YOU. Please leave me alone and respect my boundaries. I’m just going to ignore you.
Sure. It’s blatantly clear for ANYONE who knows what happened and the fact that you’ve been harrassing me ever since. And I will keep reporting you because people like you need to be stopped. Cyber bullying is serious.
Mathias and Shaw were literally an entire chapter in the book.
What I’m getting at is that the true soul of the game has been lost a long time ago.
We have Disney tier writing integrated into the story. The true soul of Warcraft has been lost.
Let me just use an example. In TBC you step into an alien world facing elite demons. You got sent to the nearby garrison and were put to work.
Nowadays, the game first tells you how every character thinks or feels, expresses himself, etc and the topics adressed sounds like they’re ripped out of a children’s book.
Compare the literal road of skulls the Orcs constructed in Outland to an abomination in Maldraxxus where he helps you because the souls inside of him became friends with eachother.
Do you see the comparisons?
Not to mention the cringe dialogues present where a male commented another male on hus abs telling him “you could grind carrots on those abs”.
Just feels like the game where the writers were old boomers listening to Metallica were replaced by people that still reference Disney or whatever millenial garbage was popular in 2010 these days.
All World of Warcraft did was branch out onto races in terms of Warfare. I really don’t know what you’re talking about. You’re describing an entire different game. WoW was just a follow up of the RTS games portrayed through 3D.
Wonder why they picked the name WORLD OF WARCRAFT if what you say is true and they dropped this topic after the rts games lmao.
And how many romantic relationships between two characters were portrayed in that? Even after the game people were speculating if Arthas and Jaina ever dated. The only couple present in that game were Tyrande and Malfurion.
And even then they acted like a monarch between eachother than a couple. Besides saying “my love” once or twice.
Yeah, and now they are so in your face that without all the posts complaining about them I still wouldn’t really know about the relationships and sexual orientation of most characters.
I have been, but that person keeps bringing up horrible lies about me. It’s seriously upsetting and pure cyber bullying. I hope my reports will be looked at and acted upon. But yes, generally I try and just ignore the harassment, but sometimes it’s not easy.
Yeah, really. And this is why me and others have been arguing against some of the people(or most of them) making this thread, because it is very obvious in many cases that their reasonings are from elsewhere than a “love for the games” so to speak, and usually from a place of malice.
Such as the dude who claimed that women who date shorter guys are “sex workers” and therefore the Kyrian npc’s are proof of “agendas” because the women were slightly taller than the average human.
I’ve read that book myself and aside from being a little boring, imo, the only real mention of their romance is directly towards the end. I’m mostly talking about the game as I don’t really enjoy the writing style of the books. I’d never seen Mathias Shaw as much of a character and let’s say for a moment that the objective of that book is to sell a book that appeals mostly to the LGBTQ+ side of the fence - so what? It does not remove anything from the world building or lore, imo.
They didn’t ‘drop the topic’, but it’s not the centerpiece of everything anymore either.
The setting has become so much more intricate.
Anyway, we’re going more and more off topic, so I’ll just drop it.
My opinion: Topics such as these are fine to be addressed ingame. Maybe not as ‘main storylines’, but as little ‘eastereggs’ such as these, it’s perfectly fine.
“Relationship” doesn’t just mean a romantic relationship.
Besides, all the romance in WoW has mostly felt pretty incidental.
Only time when it’s been more than incidental to me, has been when you need to save a core character’s ‘beloved’ or someone’s death has been used as motive for actions.
So how many pages does the book have that one page makes such a big part of it?
And yeah yeah, you would rather have bland characters without a life besides killing off others, well, that would be some great story telling, I can already see myself getting bored to death.
You’ll have to forgive me for not having followed this enough, but I don’t know what kind of comments or lies they Mion has brought up.
The only post that caught my attention on this was about them talking about how some forum users had talked about a pre-patch event, and since I dont know your history, I dont even know if it was a refference to you or what it is about, since they claim it wasnt about you either.
My suggestion is still the same, and I know that it can be hurtful if people are generally malicious towards you, I’ve had things happen to be too and I can be quite sensitive to such things, but keep poking at it won’t help either.
Put them on ignore, and if you feel they are posting stuff like that, report it to Blizzard to take a look at it. But right now both of you would probably do best to just pretend the other doesn’t exist.
This is pretty much what I do/have done, and I don’t really engage with that individual, but they do seem to think I am talking about them sometimes when I am not, and will proceed to derail otherwise harmless threads. I never go out of my way to respond to them or insult them, let alone personally attack or harass them, but I usually get a ton of messages along the lines of;
“cyber bully”, “harasser”, “sadist”, other things I won’t mention. They’re all usually personally damaging to me as I have a history of abuse, and I do feel attacked whenever they go after me or accuse me of doing something I haven’t. On one hand, they say I tell lies and harass, while they’re lying about me and harassing me.
Notice even now - after I have her blocked, she is still derailing the thread to keep this going? It’s all a blatant ruse to get me banned or poopcanned by the community, and it’s not the first time it’s been done to other users in similar fashion.
I do apologize to both for picking on it further, I just wanted to clarify my stance on it as well a bit on the best approach for each person. I will let it be now and keep the topic on the main point!
As someone who was also there during the firestorm of that whole thread, please keep in mind that a lot of the posts have been deleted or altered now, and the full context is no longer present. Odd how that works.