You can very easily just button smash. You just cant pull the entire continent at once.
I dunno, i make a trial character, head off to the dragon isles, and i die like 10 times in the first quest on a rogue. This is fighting just two at once.
Even with a mage i have better luck staying alive and they dont have a self heal.
This is just my experience though with trial characters. Rogue is the only one i really really struggled with.
I’m sorry mr. Rogue but if you look at the other’s comment here they say the same thing. I know everyone defend their class especially if its dearest to your heart and you play it for eternity.
But us, multi class, multi-altoholic people Rogue right now is just a terrible experience.
I need to level him two more levels, then sure I can grab lvl385 gear for him and then just blind join LFR… but if I would have to think about playing through single player, story content OR PVP. I wouldn’t touch rogue with a stick.
Stop touching me.
True but… what Elite do you need to kill while leveling, really?
Pala says: Apply posions…
HAHAHA, love it, thanks!
No, again… All other classes piece of cake to level and enjoy leveling solo content. Rogue is like a weak feral druid with broken legs and hands and barely any healing.
Like 2-3 times slower…You can’t grind mobs, forget that. Elite story enemies are HARD and many times if you make a mistake, it punishes you so hard, the worse is that you need to start the fight all over again after vanish and spening some time in shadows waiting for CDs to finish.
What other class has this experience right now? None.
Mage feels the second slowest, not invincible, but definitely easier to pull 2-3 mobs and kill them, even though feels a bit slow with my frost -granted, I’m not that pro with her either-.
There’s a few but they were never a issue when I lvld my rogue, if you got cds ready you can burn down 99% of the elite mobs related to quests.
Yes, elite story “enemy” kill xy named … its “elite” “rare” level mob.
Ohnaran planes, the big lizard in the forest. Hits like a truck if you miss the stun, and used your defenses. I was clumsy for sure but 2-3 times tried and died or had to get away, then a shaman came, hit it down to 50% in mere seconds (leveling shaman too, not lvl70).
So I felt ashamed as a rogue I couldn’t do it alone lol.
So it is a skill issue
No shame in it, I have the samme skill issue and simply skip the ones I know I would struggle
But honestly, if you don’t level via TW, you just make your life harder
shamans have earth elementals…shaman have self healing and heroism…dont compare
You can be as sorry as much as you want to be but everything i read here is that nobody here knows how to play rogue so i can disregard their input and that rogue is one of the “i cant tank the whole contintent” class is also nothing new.
Dont care. Leveling from 60 to 70 takes 2 hours for instance. And any change to leveling would automatically affect max level as well and as such im going to completely disregard you people whining about dying during leveling.
Timewalking dungeons
Also oh noes i have to learn a class instead of facerolling my head over the keyboard. The horrors.
Also still waiting for you to link your rogue. I guarantee im gonna see stuff that just screams “oh god”.
There are no dangerous “elite story enemies” during leveling.
Ever noticed the “suggested players: 3” part also mentioned in the quest? Hmmmmmmmm
Again: There are no dangerous elite quests during leveling unless you want to pick a “group quest” and complain about you not being able to solo it.
but everything i read here is that nobody here knows how to play rogue
Back in the day, I had a rogue main on an RP PVP server. Sure, it changed a lot but you won’t believe me anyways if I say I know how to play rogue. Not as expert with it as I was but still. It’s like biking…
Leveling from 60 to 70 takes 2 hours for instance.
Hard to take such exaggerated sentences seriously really.
noticed the “suggested players: 3” part also mentioned in the quest? Hmmmmmmmm
So as a rogue I need additional players, but none of the other classes need those anymore and could solo such content? Can I rest my case then with a point and score?
No you can’t… But yes you do need additional players sometimes. It’s not the end of the world.
So? Does not mean you know how to play it. Either back then or now. Classes changed a lot since “back in the day” on top of it.
Then link your rogue. Im still waiting.
Its not exaggerated. Its called spamming timewalking dungeons. And during release it wasnt much slower with the world first hitting 70 3hrs after release.
But lets say im gonna be generous here and say you “take your time” during timewalking then it takes at best a whooping 6hrs with afk in between. Oh noes.
A: Its called a group quest. Oh noes i cant solo a group quest. Call the police.
B: I said
Laugh all you want. I levelled my rouge and did not find it to be that particularly hard I had to come and whine about it on forums.
Try using what the toons abilities are designed for. Sneak up on target (note not targets), having sapped any nearby backup. Stabby stab a lot, making sure to use the full rotation, kicks, stuns, pop defences, pop free healing, kite if needed till it dies (thats where the poison forgetting thing got me, no free damage)… Win, stealth out. Repeat. Its not a mindless plate wearing crush all bot nor a ranged , get mob to half dead before it even knows your there…
That or just timewalk and get carried.
If you suck at levelling with a rogue, you will suck as much if not harder, even if you get the free 385 gear… Just saying.
Ermm, dungeons? Press ‘I’, queue, run dungeon (stay awake), win. You do not even need to leave your city, as it will teleport you in and out of the dungeon.
Ermm, dungeons?
So I’m the one who doesn’t know how to play the game it seems sure…
Except, that the leveling experience strongly tied together with the story quests and solo quests, and building up reputation.
What you do is grind up to level 70 and then probably disregard the whole quest chain completely. Do LFR, PVP then whine that there isn’t enough content in the game and unsub half a year -or less- later.
Leveling ment to be part of the story, not a fast 3 hour instance grind, not to mention EARLIER CONTENT you use to level up. Sorry but this is a laughable goal, I’m not complaining about leveling. I’m complaining about solo quest experience.
You comparing apples and oranges my man. No you better yet, you telling me no matter apples or oranges, just eat it in one bite. That is not how Blizzard planning out the game, that is for sure.
Okay then how about this:
If you have to make a tier list for classes in dragonflight, Rogue is the worse experience right now to solo questing and leveling. S tier, its the “don’t bother” tier in Borderlands 3 for Legendary weapon tier list.
Spam TW dungeons, even as a dps you’ll get a pop every 5 mins. Plus, you get to buy starter gear for badges, not mentioning AH blues, at 70.
Mob scaling is much better there, everything melts really, no matter your played class or spec.
They did touch Rogues. They got nerfed several times, their defesives included. And even despite all their nerfs, Rogues are still #1 in M+ and have the lowest deathrate of any DPS spec.
What is wrong with ppl that get overly defensive about a claim like “rogues are hard to level”?