That right
A new corruption : Condemn
Supposed to be an execute
But is a spell with a proc anytime
17 469 condemn
According to main Arm Warrior on the forum, the fault of this imbalance is :
Who gonna be the winner with the right answer 
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Just line it br0, or just kick and interrupt it br0.
how is condemn rng? Its op but its not rng at all.
Proc requires you to be in melee vs an easily kitable class.
Condemn requires target to be above 80 % or below 35 % (If running the talent).
Not saying that itâs not strong, it is for sure strong, but it is also counterable by players that know how.
With a talent, Condemn can be used with any health etc and make it 40 rage, so like if you are at 40% , when it proc condemn is shadow damage of 40 rage and when it crit itâs an easy 16 K damage.
Sudden Death
Instant
Requires Warrior
Your attacks have a chance to make your next Execute cost no Rage, be usable on any target regardless of their health, and deal damage as if you spent 40 Rage.
like warlock 
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That shouldnât be based on kitting
and mostly in PvP in shadowland, warrior can connect H24, exept if you got a mate that CC him and you are able to breath the time of the CC.
I canât wait you give me tips as warlock demonology !
Because to drop 40% â 0 % Yea maybe i miss something, i Unending resolve Collosus smash but itâs still ok after that to 17k .
and if that was every minutes, ok, but a warrior can spam it every 6 sec easely so thereâs no counter to that.
Why would you willingly play demonology in PvP? Thatâs like me choosing to play fury even though the spec is arguably garbage in pvp.
If you play demonology, you deserve to lose vs warrior.
Also, if you think condemn is what makes warrior broken, you truely belong at challenger/Maybe rival.
The single ability that makes warrior strong in PvP is intervene, thats it. Their damage is fine, their survivability is fine, etc.
Thatâd maybe be true if not for the fact that venthyr condemn charge warrior can cause casters some real trouble too. Intervene doesnât even affect them that much more often than not (unless you overwatch reflect an important spell which is a rarity) but warriors still blast casters.
If you think you have no outplay potential as a caster into warrior, then youâre wrong. Iâm not disagreeing with the fact that warriors are strong, they are for sure, but saying there is no outplay potential is flat out wrong.
at around ~2.1 CR, you notice this a lot. Healers leaving teammates at 36-79 % health disabling you from condemn charging. Tracking your charge and leap CDs with CC, LoSâing you from healer into roots, etc.
And the reason intervene is broken, is cus if combod with a class thatâs good at countering spell casters such as DK or enha sham, warrior is a force to be reckoned with. It makes it very difficult for either melee or caster comps to kill anything vs you. Adding intervene reflect ontop of that just makes it even harder.
Like i said, warrior is strong, but not broken⌠Intervene is, although there are plenty of broken spells in shadowlands currently. Mages for example being extremely hard to shut down, purge, etc. on combust due to not having to cast. The hunt. Divine toll and ret pala burst as a whole. Chain Harvest. Mindgames. New rogue venthyr oneshot. And so on.
This is the first expansion where warrior is S-tier in a LONG while, just like itâs the first expansion where every class is glad viable and even R1 viable with one spec or the other.
i was affliction when taking those damage, but i say demono to show you that OP thing should not be balance on S+ tier list.
Such a bad mentality, that the reason why you guys donât want a balanced game
"X thing donât deserve to " make marksmanship A tier on the start of the extension to C tier.
ANd now you wander why you see Beast Mastery hunter.
So AWC player is Challenger / rival. Damn you maked me a revelation !
Nope, Way too wrong
Bleach to my eyes please
That without using CD.
Donât you think there is too much personnal survivability in this ?
And i didnât listed cooldown and CC.
And damage is overtuned for a Mortal wound class.
Mostly when Condemn is so strong that people got 45% damage representation ith it. And in a game they join ret pala damage that is already god way too strong.
YOu add a 50% mortal wound and itâs like you tunnel vision, congratz you are glad.
On Streamer stream i never saw in shadowland a warrior winning because he spell reflect a cyclone or fear the ennemy healer.
They become so strong that they just need to tunnel vision and they will win in time
Warrior arm got 11% representation as gladiator in 2V2 and in 3V3. On 2V2 the 2nd dps is fire mage with only 6% of the representation. Clearly the double.
No longer possible to say that due warrior can perma melee caster. Was possible in BFA, no longer possible in Shadowland/
The last extension they was Near the S tier already but classed A tier.
And Arm in BFA were balance at least.
itâs not because you are not #1 Top Spec of the game you are not viable.
Is it just me or are these two statements saying two almost contradictory things?
First you say warrior is only strong because of intervene, then you say itâs actually strong regardless and intervene is specifically what makes it broken. Iâm confused right now⌠you also didnât seem to address me saying warrior is strong into casters (whom intervene doesnât really affect since it works against physical stuff) to which you replied by saying casters can outplay it. Strong and unbeatable are two different things, you know. Warrior can be strong against casters, a possibility for outplay existing doesnât change that. And itâs strong into those casters even with intervene being largely irrelevant against them.
How is that contradictory?
Iâm saying warrior is strong, due to intervene mostly. It single handedly carries the class up to S-tier atm. This is not because of itâs usefulness vs every comp, but itâs usefulness vs melee comps in particular. It allows warriors to group up with classes that are powerful into caster cleaves to cover itâs weaknesses.
That and the fact that not a lot of people know how to play against it, up until 2.4+. It is extremely clear to me when iâm fighting a good mage vs a bad mage as an example.
Youâre basing your BFA opinion off of a melee tier list in an RMP/Castercleave meta? Iâve seen enough my guy.
You were beaten by a warrior at 1.6 and youâre mad about it, so instead of figuring out ways to beat it, you do the easier thing which is cry on the forums for nerfs without even understanding why the class is strong.
âThe single ability that makes warrior strong in pvp is interveneâ does sound like they were useless without it. Not sure if thatâs poor wording on your part, but thatâs the impression that first quote gave me. And itâs what Iâve been referring to this entire time.
It says mostly. Obviously there is other utility making warrior powerful, but this is utility that is not unique to warriors alone. The things that makes warrior special.
This is the quote I meant. If you donât see how that implies warrior would be terrible without intervene, then I donât know what to tell you and have been wasting my time here.
Werenât you already wasting your time here in the first place?
Every balance related debate on the EU forums is completely and utterly useless.
I guess I was. Mustâve overestimated an orc warrior mainâs ability to debate on the forum. My bad, sorry.
You didnât even read dude, i show you that arm warrior was already near the S tier . And now in Shadowland they are beyond S tier with ret pala.
DO you think it was at 1.6 ? NAh mate it was not 
You guys donât assume you are beyond broken class in the game. Every arm warrior tell the same copypasta for the same reason : you have geared it, you tunnel vision and get rating you donât even deserve in term of pvp knowledge application.
You fear that when you gonna be nerfed you gotta have to use smart move in order to win, but you still want to keep tunnel vision gameplay and then complain on forums other class is broken because your tunnel vision was not enought.
Since i follow the forum in BFA every war want to be buffed to tunnel vision, to the point arm warrior still think they are viable when they are OverPower.
So now your spec is #1 so you donât want any class balance so you can keep being overpower.
Nice mentallity there : please donât nerf us and donât buff other, so i can still be the best !
They never change and donât saw one that proved me wrong
i dont think u know what a kitable class is, u have 2charges +3jumps back to back, a ranged stun with 30sec cd (LOL who had the idea to give warr a stun?) and a perma slow, how is that kitable?
lets not forget bladestorm = immune to cc.
how does someone kite a warrior lol.
even i as aff with my perma slow, i have 2 jumps to run, u just follow me.
i port u jump, i port again u jump gain, i slow u u slow me. and u still have 3more stuff to catch me.
Your PvP experience begs to differ, but okay.
I want to clarify, iâm not saying donât nerf warriors, by all means, we need nerfs for sure. They just need to nerf the right things.
secondly, locks - as an example - were completely and utterly busted and overtuned in BFA, especially the entirety of last patch, and NOTHING changed for that whole season. So what makes you think a forum post from some random steve with 1.6 k CR is gonna change anything? Youâre wasting your time on this instead of learning how to beat warriors.