Please go back to classic.
Also i seriously doubt you are beeing truthfull. 1st i call you out on quoting Ion to which you reply “oh i just now watched the interview”, now you claim that all specs are boring and reactionary, someone else disproves you and here you come with “well prot is fine i like it when i press button and do thing before mob punch me in the face”.
Tbh as long as they keep the color limitation red=output, yellow=utility, blue=defense you’ll try to aim for 2-3x red + 2x good outputtrait in addition to your covenantability, depending on strength difference.
You mean, you could take an optimal skill path or be less competitive. 
Right know you have a flawed covenant system + flawed soulbind system, because all speccs got the same soulbinds, while profiting on different levels and maybe getting their best soulbind on their optimal covenant.
It’s azerite traits/corruptions/essences all over again, but with a limitation on changes.
So you tried to say that it the gameplay is too simple while in fact you meant that some specific specs are too simple. So you invalidated your own statement. It is no an issue with the game in general, they are individual non-issues that you in particular don’t like.
I just got an idea! What if we could mix and match our covenant abilities and soulbinds and legendaries to our heart’s content? Wouldn’t that be so much fun? Instead of being very limited in doing so?
Wait you mean you actually want to introduce a way to give us a meaningfull choise. You my friend are using too much logic and too little “muh rpg” mentality.
For someone who is so much against covenants you should be against the spec separation, too. Why can’t your spec A take skills from spec B? That’s stupid. And you’ll say “but I can just change specs” but you also need a separate gear set for your other spec, so in fact you need to farm for days in order to change your specs. You can’t change specs easily if they get rebalanced and the one you’ve been maining…
Oh nevermind, the problem is straight up covenants. Changing covenants will be easier than swapping specs, except if someone has been gearing their 3 specs all this time. Ion said it by the way “To change back to a covenant you abandoned, you do a quest” and that’s about it. It’ll be easy to go back to a covenant.
Um… I wrote the subclass comparison before the interview happened. 
First we should get to do that with specs. Give me a finite number of points to spend on all 3 specs and let me create my own class. Wanting to do the same for covenants but being opposed to it for classes is just silly.
It was also stated that they may lock it for 3/7/14 days before you can change back to your old covenant…
And who says im not against the spec separation ? Which of the points where i complained that there are 36 unbalanced specs said to you yeah i realy dont want to use DoTs as demo or destro. Now im starting to suspect that you have a hard time reading.
You told me to go back to classic when I brought it up, mate. >_>
By the way, I think we should go further into subclassing. I think players should be allowed to “rebirth” as another class, level up that class to max, do some endgame with it, and that unlocks an ability for your main class. Meanwhile, your “rebirth” gets an ability FROM your main straight from the start. And maybe when you rebirth as all classes, you can pick from any of the skills they can offer you, but you can have only one at a time. Or two. I want MORE of this type of systems, not less.
You’re right, it is stupid. That is exactly why I don’t want to be stuck with an ability that perfectly fits into affliction if I respec into demo. Or vice versa. We are not against covenants, we are against the restrictions they introduce not only in the covenant system itself, but in the spec system that has woked perfectly fine for years. If anything, it goes against class fantasy and forces you more into spec fantasy.
This is an issue many people you are disagreeing here with criticise heavily. This is a problem with azerite introduced in BFA and that legendary acquisition introduced in Legion. Nobody likes this. Which is why we don’t want ANOTHER NEW SYSTEM that does it all over again.
My warlock and DH can comfortably change between specs because I’ve been palying both actively and have pretty much the best gear for each spec. But my wariror which I haven’t been playing too much got unlucky and now all my azerite is crap for all 3 specs. Is it playable? Sure. Do I enjoy having bad gear? No.
They have specifically stated what they have in mind right now is that it will be time consuming to go back to a covenant you’ve left. In a matter of weeks, so it’s plausible in between raid tiers. That is just unreasonable.
Yeah i told you to go back to classic and away from retail.
Its sad when you have to troll on your own statements mate, dont do it.
Covenants could be most of what you want here, IF we were allowed to swap between them. Do you want to “mix and match to your heart’s content” or be restriced from doing that? You’re contradicting yourself in some way in almsot everything you say, again.
You seem to have major fundamental issues with the game, yet almost everything you are proposing here only broadens these issues instead of fixing them.
Ofc he is, he is trying to come up with strawman arguments in order to deffend “muh meaningfull choise” only to hit a wall when said choise is proven either meaningless in the long run and/or not a choise at all.
I’m serious. Blizz has designed specs to feel more like DOTA characters, with prescribed way of playing them. Your class is no longer your creation, it’s not your choice. You just pick one of 3, and you play that the way Blizzard dictates. And I want to throw more stuff into the mix, to create situations that weren’t predetermined by Blizz.
The reason why prot is fun is that you have to react to enemies, so Blizz can’t really predetermine your playstyle. And it is my hope here when they’ll give players so much choice, that you’ll get specs that feel different from one another.
Nonsense.
Spoiler covenants and soulbinds don’t do that.
So do you want a “meaningful choice” or “throw more stuff into the mix”?
You mean like they are now, where each spec feels like its own class?
Thats the thing when it comes to power, and if its not balanced (which knowing blizzard it wont be) for your example you gave the end result wont be 4981 classes it will be 1 super build per role (so 3 in total maybe 4 for rdps and mdps).
One doesn’t exclude the other. Covenants are more stuff into the mix, but you have to make a choice. We’ll see how it plays out. I hope for beta access but I don’t think it’ll happen considering how little I played of BFA.
They do not, you’re right. What I mean was more of swappable covenants throw even more stuff into the mix, much more customizability.
Why?
To limit the stuff that is “thrown in the mix”. 