As you should ignore.And ignore the mainstream wow hating channels on YT they do nothing but inspire hate and negativity towards the company cause they get views that way I can understand good criticism on something but when every video is hate made for the brainless driveling masses to watch you know something is not quite right and you are bound to even find these YouTuber Cult fans that mindlessly worship the ground they walk up,on these peoples free will to think for themselves is gone.
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windwalker is 4 buttons aswell, destro is 3 to 4 aswell there is noway any1 can defend the current class design
the same thing could be said about you defending the game
I’m not I’m just saying I don’t believe everything people tell me online and wow has problems but I still like it so I play it.Also you are nitpicking my post cause you are one of those cultists that I mentioned that follows them like God’s.
Warlock was 1 in TBC - just saying.
I have no issue if people want more buttons to press.
I’m just commenting on the irony of using Arcane (a spec that hasn’t really changed at all since its inception) as an example.
atleast you had other buttons that were situational, however for most people the pinacle of fun class design is wrath or mop not bc
I actually quite like Shadow atm - it’s different but I’ve got used to it.
Also Holy is in a good place.
So I’m quite happy with Priesting atm. But, of course, just my own view.
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To be fair, Arcane was always that way, I used to play arcane in WoTLK and can’t even begin to tell you the amount of stick I got back then with the 1112,1112,1112 jokes.
Frost was a PvP spec only as it wasn’t even considered a PvE spec worth it’s salt and Fire was so gear dependent that unless you were rocking the latest and greatest in the later patches it was also a no-go spec competatively.
So complain all you want about how it is now but don’t lose sight that for the majority of specs it has improved.
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Imagine being this much of a whiteknight
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wierd while in mop i enjoyed playing every class i get crippling depression after playing any bfa specc for a moderate amout of time
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Makes no sense what you said sorry, hows that a valid argument?. By all means lave world quests in and so forth but dont use it to fill empty parts of the islands (im talking about the new zones that lack a lot of content)
Its actually not tho, go back a few expansions and look how class design was then to now.
I would even take WOD class design over current and WOD was meh
As I stated in an earlier post, your opinions are your own and you have a right to them, as are mine and I.
I would however agree that MoP class mechanics were better in general than they are today, how I miss Symbiosis on my Druid! /cryalittle ![:frowning:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/frowning.png?v=6" ":frowning:")
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Okay I am sorry I missed the part about new zones wq .my sincere apologies .
A few posts above his, you tell someone to stop sarcasm and participate in the discussion.
And now you act like a troll. Really mature of you mr propaganda.
I already answered that, i used Arcane as example. But now every spec is slowely becoming arcane, frost DK is there already. Can’t even fill 2 bars and just barely filled a bar and that includes talents. Main dps totation (so spammable if resources and no CD) is 3 buttons. How is this defensable? Funny how people only tackle arcane, when I take that as the extreme example because it’s been known as 3 button spec (without macros) for the longest. It isn’t oke they are making other specs the same just because arcane has been like this since the start.
I will translate: “We who are positive are not sheep, we made our own opinion! But people who like a youtuber and are nagative because they share their opinion are just sheep who got indoctrinated. Secretly they love the game! They love the class design, the don’t feel dead inside when they do islands expiditions etc. WoW is perfect!”
Keep repeating this, so sick of the double standards that comes from the sorry to say it like this white knights. Sorry but most of us found them out of grievance for the game changes, YT didn’t say “Hey watch this Asmongold video! I wanna turn you into a hater of WoW!”. No it recommend it to me bcause I shared the sentiment, I do not agree for the full 100% with any of them. Nobbel I will say is too casual if he would start doing spec balance vids, so my disgreement is playstyle and what i agree with is his loreview. So I watch him for lore only, Preach for mechanics and class content etc., last vid I fully agree with Preach about Naz’jatar but on others I only partly agreed (whether that means halfway or 90% doesn’t matter). That’s fine.
Asmongold represent a large portion of the playerbase and vents our frustrations with the boring design and unrewarding design. Yet even he admits he is the first one to congratulate Bliz if they do a good job, yet he will rip them a new one if they ignore feedback once again. Also he was the guy who started the friendship moose, he encouraged me and others to take 2-4 random players on a weekly basis and get them the limited time moose moutn from HFC. This doesn’t sound like a guy who does it for the clicks, he is passionate and cares about the game. All we want is to have fun in current content again and not go: “Oke so I logged? What now? Guess it’s farming old content again… it isn’t a raid night afterall!”
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What’s your ideal number for a rotation then?
No 2-4 buttons? Give classes their ultility spells back and no excuses like: “But you will only use frostbolt as a fire mage if you need to kite!”. No give the spells back, before the prunning started frostbolt was part of my rotation! Same as warlock curses were, yes it’s the same but it was something you had to manage. Auras of paladin? Switch them depending on need. Same way Blizzard or Arcane Explosion were used, yes it weren’t fire spells that leaved a dot but they were usefull and crucial to solo play or to assist in groups. Try to kite nowadays as a fire mage if needed it’s nearly impossible and impossible if the mob is immune to Frost Nova (which breaks on 1 tick for further humilation).
Frost DK, give them back their pruned spells that spec is a disgrace. Even DH as a new class has more to press than them. Well atleast they beat arcane mage in rotation. Not that it doens’t make better. Not using the movement stuff or glaive throw with a talent I’m already at 5 I’m rotating every 30 sec. meanwhile frost DK lost and could get back:
-Plaque strike (also an extra dot to keep track of)
-The excecution strike they added in MoP (name escapes/eludes me but it was a skill you needed to learn how to optimally use aswell).
To be short there should be atleast 5 skills you reguarly use and not just 3 or 2 like arcane mage. Not only will it give you more options, more options means more oppertunities. But all they did for 3 expansion was prune. God I hate frost DK now, those bars makes me sad to look at and with fire mage I see a very big hole called Phoenix Flames not being baseline (and missing so many utility spells). Let’s not start ret because I will simply go into a tirade (the talents are over half of former ret passives prunned to be used as talents along with all the removal of choice they did). In MoP pre-patch despite losing skills as a ret it was still fun but it felt bad that essentially half the spec was gutted for the talent rows.
So 5 - ok. 5 in a rotation that you actively press?
I agree with the utility spells - it would be nice to have them back but I don’t think the actual nature of WoW has been changed by removing them. I think the problems BfA faces currently run a lot deeper than an arbitray rotation number.
So Shadow has 5 (technically) buttons baseline (and we’re counting Void Eruption/Bolt as 1) then they could add back Shadow word: Death to make it 6.
Can’t actually recall a time when mages ever had more than 5 (if that) , in any spec. I could be wrong though.
5, 6 or 7. But we need spells back you, WoD was the first time I ever died on fire mage during questing. How? No way to slow mobs anymore. Get caught between smaller mobs but mutple? Oops arcane explosion is gone!
Choice needs to go back, sure seals was a simple click to change but it was an option that was constantly there to keep in your mind. In need of a heal? Heal on attack. Pull a big mob and thrash? Dot seal till 5 then switch to AoE seal. All that choice has been ripped out. For what? To make it easier for new players?
So you mean in an active rotation? 7 seems a bit excessive.
If you mean having access to the spells from other specs - I think I agree… but I’m not convinced it is the systemic problem WoW faces at this point in its lifespan.