Zandalari Troll and Kul Tiran Human Classes

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/battle-for-azeroth/features/allied-races

Zandalari get:
    Druids
    Hunters
    Mages
    Monks
    Paladins
    Priests
    Rogues
    Shaman
    Warlocks
    Warriors


Kul Tirans get:
    Druids
    Hunters
    Monks
    Priests
    Rogues
    Shaman
    Warriors


How do you feel about Kul Tiran Shaman being possible while Kul Tiran Mages are not?
How do you feel about Zandalari Monks being possible?

On a scale of one to ten, how well do you feel these classes represent the lore of these races?
I was sure we are getting Zandalari Paladins.

Was the... death of Rezan also an end to Zandalari Prelates? Did the Empire lose them for good?
02/11/2018 20:53Posted by Halasibel
Was the... death of Rezan also an end to Zandalari Prelates? Did the Empire lose them for good?


We're still going to encounter Prelates in 8.1 as NPCs in Alliance quest campaign and raid boss encounter. This is based on available PTR build.
Source?

We haven't had a WoW pannel yet. How do you know this?
Why shouldn't Kul Tirans be Mages? Sure they are no Dalaran, and indeed there is no good university of magic in Kul Tiras (hence why Jaina studied abroad), but there are some Kul Tiran Mages throughout the expansion. For example, there is a dangerous pyromancer in Tiragarde Sound who is the boss of a World Quest. Plus Kul Tiran Frost Mages fit very nicely with the whole Tidesages theme of using Water to their advantage.
I really wanted Zandalari to overcome that tragedy with Rezan : /

If they do lack prelates, it means they couldn't...
02/11/2018 21:00Posted by Arctur
Why shouldn't Kul Tirans be Mages? Sure they are no Dalaran, and indeed there is no good university of magic in Boralus (hence why Jaina didn't study in her city), but there are some Kul Tiran Mages throughout the expansion. For example, there is a dangerous pyromancer near Boralus who is the boss of a World Quest. Plus Kul Tiran Frost Mages fit very nicely with the whole Tidesages theme of using Water to their advantage.


Perhaps this is exactly why Kul Tirans field no mages. Blizzard wanted the Tidesage's vibes to be associated exclusively with the shaman class. Might be.
Woo Hoo! They can both be monks. I was worried we wouldn't get Zandalari Monks.

That'll make leveling them for the heritage armor so much easier.

Lorewise, they should both have Paladins. Kul Tirans should have mages too. But I can see why they don't.
02/11/2018 20:55Posted by Thalasdin
We haven't had a WoW pannel yet. How do you know this?

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/battle-for-azeroth/features/allied-races
02/11/2018 21:01Posted by Halasibel
I really wanted Zandalari to overcome that tragedy with Rezan : /

If they do lack prelates, it means they couldn't...

That's BS... There are zandalari paladins in the raid, there is no reason to keep horde with only two races for paladins.
This is beyond dumb, but KT mages (who have Proudmore academy) and Zandalari pallies (who can draw light powers from other Loas) are viable and make sense.
I mean they just shown Shirvallah to grant light powers!

That is a total downer, the main reason I wanted to roll Zandalari was because they were fantastic new option that actually has rich background and is unique.

I guess I also need a break from wow.
I don't understand why Kul Tirans can't be Mages, since there is clearly a Fire Mage who is Kul Tiran and must be killed in a World Quest. Ridiculous.
02/11/2018 21:03Posted by Taxania

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/battle-for-azeroth/features/allied-races


Thank you.
02/11/2018 21:05Posted by Arctur
I don't understand why Kul Tirans can't be Mages, since there is clearly a Fire Mage near Boralus who is Kul Tiran and must be killed in a World Quest. Ridiculous.

Must have studied at Dalaran.
02/11/2018 21:06Posted by Taxania
02/11/2018 21:05Posted by Arctur
I don't understand why Kul Tirans can't be Mages, since there is clearly a Fire Mage near Boralus who is Kul Tiran and must be killed in a World Quest. Ridiculous.

Must have studied at Dalaran.


Then why are there Pandaren or Mag'har Mages? Did they study at Dalaran too?
02/11/2018 20:50Posted by Taxania
How do you feel about Zandalari Monks being possible


Why does every race get Monk?

Like they are as staple as Warriors and Hunters now.
I don't think that everyone should be able to become a monk these days. I thought that being a monk actually requires some training, some inner jounrey...

I never considered them to be like Warriors... Pick up that sword and hit things.

And yet, anyone can be them.

Why not Zandalari Paladins?! The lore of Zandalari was enriched by those guys and their presence was clearly visible and now we're denied them? Why? Why hate them trolls, damn it! GIVE EMPIRE THEIR PREALTES BACK.
02/11/2018 21:07Posted by Arctur
Then why are there Pandaren or Mag'har Mages? Did they study at Dalaran too?

The majority of human mages retreated to Dalaran shortly after its founding. It quickly came to possess a monopoly when it came to human wielders of the arcane. If you wanted to learn the arcane, the best place to do so was at Dalaran; why study magic anywhere else?

That and the fact that the majority of Kul Tirans seem to be very traditional people. Who needs fancy arcane nonsense when everything they care about is taken care of by the elemental magic of tide sages?
Ugh, Kul tiran Shaman….and I thought Druids were bad enough, even though I kind of got over that atrocity.
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/battle-for-azeroth/features/allied-races

REFRESH IT IF YOU'VE GOT IT UP ALREADY.

THEY JUST ADDED ZANDALARI PALADINS.