what’s the best zug zug alt? something where i’m just doing pressure rather than trying to control people.
warrior, dk and dh spring to mind. any other suggestions?
Enhance or Frost DK prolly. Arms is cool too.
wait frost dk is still viable??? I thought their damage was straight trash
any melee .
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Frost DK or DH
Arms can also zug zug but is much more effective if you master the utility/defensive play as well.
Frost DK is really good. Not dogsh!t at all.
DH isn’t bad it just needs defensive Soulbind with more defensive Conduits. If you get high ilvl on them DH will be good. Damage is good it’s survivability that sucks now. If you improve it you don’t need damage conduits.
Actually DH might be very strong in this meta because of Rogues, Ferals, Hunters, Mages that use stealth for guaranteed openers. DH can prevent them from doing it. DH has also Reverse Magic and Big Darkness. Since it has MS effect and Mana Burn isn’t necessary because of pace I can see comps like DH/Ele/X, DH/Shadow/X, DH/Boomy/R Sham or DH/Affli/X viable.
It’s just you don’t spam damage being immortal due to leech but you need to use your defensives better but I see DH as perfectly viable spec.
It’s not meta but it counters meta so it has big potential.
Frost DK is beyond trash atm. Frost is a pretty zug zug spec, the damage just isn’t there.
Mes values him more than Unholy in The Walking Dead due to burst. It’s burstnasty I’d say but it lacks sustain. TWD is setup comp and with Chill Streak and some beefy Obliterates on Leg Sweep it can global someone easily with addition of WW damage.
Very situational tho. In general, Frost isnt in a good place. Yeah Chillstreak is alright.
I mean a lot of specs have 1-2 viable specs. Frost will be definetely viable in TWD and Unh will be good with Shadow or Affli and in TSG I think. The only real problem for DK is no defensives vs phisical damage. DK melts to Monks and Warriors.
Mmmm wouldn’t count on it.
Sure countering openers for rogues and such is nifty but it’s also real easy to avoid, reset and counter spectral sight. You also have to be in range to actually interupt stealth on the target unless it’s a rogue with subterfuge or shadowdance then it doesn’t really mather.
Damage is really not hot at all. Playstyle is really “in your face” but the numbers arent just there at all and abilites that do have some damage are very long cd and/or easily avoidable.
Survivability is ye… it just sucks.
Would not recommend DH at all unless you enjoy being a third wheel that have to be carried by your team.
Tren actually says opposite. DH has better damage than it had in BFA but it lacks leech it had before. Basically DH is still viable and good but you actually need to do things to survive instead of just doing your PvE rotation.
DH more damages than BFA? lul
i’ve gone for arms warrior boys thanks for the input 
Better go ultimate ZUGZUG with an orc warrior! ^^
I went for the beta male zug zug 
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I’m talking about DH itself not Gushing Wounds.
Frost DK can do about 50k and more in 3 Seconds to 2 Targets in Arena.
Just with Chill Streak, Breath and Covenent.