Buenas de nuevo,
Con un poco de tiempo me estoy leyendo los comentarios del post que me pasó Pantsusu (gracias, es muy interesante) y estoy sacando muchas cosas de él. Entre ellas una respuesta que da un verde a cosas que se han dicho por aquí:
Respecto a los privilegios y características de los personajes en el foro:
Incorrect. On the forums, every character has their own trust level, flags, likes, post history, post count. Switching characters can, and IS, used to apply multiple flags or likes y one person. Each char has about 5 reports per 24 hours.
In game however, you are right. In-game it actually ties the report to the Battlenet and only counts reports that are unique per that Battlenet.
This is one of the problems with the forums. That it does NOT currently tie flags, likes, post history, post count to the Battlenet level. Bringing the WoW forums in line with the rest of the Blizzard forums, and even the WoW game reporting, would resolve that.
Respecto a por qué se cierran estos comentarios y el problema de los trolls:
Remember I said NOT to turn it into a pointless back and forth argument with people who instigate? When things get so off topic that they spiral down into just off topic arguing, Blizz tends to lock or remove the threads. The subject of the thread was fine, it is what the thread turned into.
People REALLY need to put the people on Ignore and not take the bait.
Hopefully they do switch to Btags or a single forum ID, then that Ignore will be account wide and can’t be evaded by switching characters like it is now.
Respecto a considerar esta medida como una solución para la gente que tiene “la piel fina”:
I agree that regular Blizzard posting would stop people from acting like they saw a unicorn when they do post.
However, I disagree that avoiding outright abuse and harassment is “fragile”. Fragile would be avoiding the forums because a portion don’t like a game feature you designed, or dislike the story, dungeon, etc. Like “oh no I can’t take people not liking what we made”.
ABUSE is different though - and that is what happens to Blues (and sometimes greens/yellows). When people start slinging profanity, insults, slurs, threats (including IRL threats), sexual harassment, hateful conduct, etc… that crosses lines. NOBODY in any job, should have to put up with that. Not the clerk at a store, not the waitress at a diner, not a poster on a forum.
Community Managers are an interface, they don’t make any of the game features, decisions, etc.
Yes, the answer in part is moderation of those who can’t behave, but it was bad enough they just decided that removing the catalyst (blue posts) would resolve most of the issue. They changed their job description and now they post Blogs and announcements. They don’t hang around and chat or engage with players as a whole.
I still think more frequent engagement would actually solve more problems than it causes… at least after an initial surge of abuse gets tamped down. Blizz does not take that approach though.
Sobre el acoso con el Btag:
How? You literally can’t talk to anyone via Btag without their permission. You have to ask them to add you as a friend. At which point it is a single click Decline and Block.
Unlike the current forums and actual game where someone can add your name-server to their in-game friends list without your permission, see where you are in game without your permission, follow you around game without your permission, message you or mail you without your permission. If you name change that name changes on their friends list too - and you can’t get your name off of it! Not even if you Ignore them.
On the other hand, Battletags don’t let anyone talk to you without your permission. There are a ton of privacy settings you will want to look into as well. You can even lock all chat via the app.
If you have not looked lately, check the Privacy settings. There are new options.
La verdad que en general me he llevado muy buena impresión pese a que he tenido que leerlo en diagonal. Me quedo con lo que ha dicho este MVP porque es muy coherente con todo lo que dice. Tristemente al final se terminó cerrando porque los trolls abundan allá a donde vamos, y sin control (como en estos foros) al final las buenas conversaciones se terminan tergiversando y cerrando.
Pero lo positivo es que la conversación acumuló 238 me gustas en la sugerencia inicial y además era mucho más completa y compleja que la mía, así que cuando Blizzard quiera mirar un poco los foros (que los tiene abandonados), seguramente sea lo primero que hagan, porque al parecer se lleva pidiendo mucho.
