i think they can get alot of Good Ideas from it, i think they neeed a fresh look around D4 endgame. i think both games will benefit on a a great poe2.
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eat shit and die
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They saw it, they even put some of the PoE stuff in D4 with some changes. They wont do more as it takes actual effort and it seems they are happy with current income, so there is no need to take any serious actions.
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They can’t use more complicated stuff or more grindy stuff from POE
because d4 is a strictly a casual game for people that wants to play 10 minutes a day and still get all stuff done 
If you want a actual ARPG go play POE diablo is never going to apeal to any of you
because it doesn’t trying to be that game
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See, this cracks me up… How is PoE more grindy when in D4 you can farm for weeks without getting a single upgrade, while in PoE at the end of every session you’ll still have something to show for it?
Not to mention everything in PoE is tradeable. If you’re unable to or unwilling to target farm you can just farm currency and buy what you need.
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This is the kind of post i did when the game released lol
Seems like the devs are starting to play some arpg’s but they are still in the infant phase.
When i think about Every other ARPG’s on the market, they put D4 in the bin except for graphics/animations.
Like , 2 years to add stash tabs hahaha
And for the people saying “POE is more Grindy” Maybe, but you choose where you grind and you have REAL CHOICES so it doesn’t feel like a chore (like in d4)
Compare POE SSF and D4 ssf and you will see that it’s not the same.
D4 is not that grindy compared to POE cause in POE you will have to do a lot of grinding before you can completely beat SSF
D4 doesn’t work that way you can beat UBER bosses day 1 of Season xD
The game director of D4 watched the PoE 2 presentationm then he said “this genre is going too much rogue like, why wouldn’t there be Diablo like”
Which justified everything I thought and been saying about Blizzard. They are unable to make great games anymore. The only thing they can do is to remake what they had when they were capable.
Remaster, Reforged, Classic and a D3 reskin of D4
The only thing they had over PoE was the quality of their cinematics. Watching the PoE 2 cinematic yesterday took the last crown from Blizzard. It felt like the last nail on the coffin.
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What does that have to do with grind? First off, beating uber bosses within the first day is not good design - it just isn’t.
You’re talking about chase items in PoE which would be the equivalent of 4GA mythics in D4 - yeah, good luck with that!
Now, regardless if you’d be able to get the 4GA’s mythics within the first 5 minutes, a good arpg is about the journey. Once you have it all, there’s no point to it.
Idk about that, they changed D4 into clone of D3 and D3 was and still is quite a bad game, its something like Doom for people with dementia.
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Bottom line is, before anything, they should play their own game! There’s no way they would find this enjoyable.
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Exactly and D4 has no journey at all
From lvl 1 to ubers and having no in between to farm so you can beat them
Shame on blizzard that they didn’t made all ubers like lillith that you need to play her mechanics cause she will not allow you to kill her
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I’m a bit confused but I think we’re in agreement then.
As for the Lilith fight, not really - at least not from my perspective. The whole fight is poorly telegraphed (red over red over red) - this is very important when you have things that can one shot you! Also, the visuals don’t match with the hit boxes - again, very important if you have one shot mechanics!
How do you expect “Diablo-like” devs to play POE2 if they don’t play their own game? 
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PoE 2 is far too hard for them. They should play Mario cart, it fits much better. 
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Nah this game is cooked and company to. All the developers left, only marketers remained.
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They should start playing their own game first, you know, they don’t even do that in the first place
Also PoE would be far too complicated for someone that managed to make players hit quintillions damage after a patch supposed to bring down damage numbers, what are we even talkin’ about, they probably wouldn’t even be able to finish the campaign
Rod? Is that you buddy?
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There is no soul, only money
Sadly the old Blizzard is gone forever. It is no wonder D4 is the way it is. I won’t be surprised if PoE 2 becomes a genre defining game (exile-like) the same as souls-like and rogue-like.
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