📢 Women and Minorities Mythic+ Tournament Now Live

Yeah this is a terrible idea, massive hard pass there, people should be on an equal level no matter their gender, big big pass.

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Good to know.
Life would be dull without anything to improve on.

Back on topic now, gentlemen!

Hard pass on this laughable event.

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Most women i know are bi as in bipolar :rofl:

I have no opinion on this, as it does not concern me. I have no issue with a women and gender minority tourny, there’s already Women’s Football, WNBA, almost all sports are divided, I don’t see why we couldn’t have it here. I probably won’t be watching, but I doubt I am the target demographic anyway.

Yep, should have been men, women, gnomes, elves, dwarves , some animals too.

Every time there’s a snippet of news or controversy you make a thread, and when there is none of these two you create a random thread with a subject to gather as much comments/drama/commotion as possible.

You even said so in a thread the other day you want to see even more slapface threads.

You’re either a firestarter, enjoy the attention or aim to be wowhead-lite with an edge.
I’m not saying you deserve death-threats or stuff like that, but people get tired of it. You might get off on that, idk.

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Somebody better send a bug report to God, Humanity needs an emergeny patch

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Only if it comes with a forum and we can have a thread to complain about the emergency maintenance and how we demand compensation for time lost.

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Behold the majesty of Supperman. :upside_down_face:


On topic: Couldn’t care less, because it’s M+.

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Like I said earlier, that’s focusing on the negative.

I make countless positive threads, or normal suggestions to improve the game.
But you don’t remember those.

It also doesn’t help that people react more to threads deemed “controversial”, which leads to you seeing those threads more since they remain on the front page, whereas the more lighthearted threads get burried rather quickly in comparison.

It doesn’t?
I thought men were clearly better at gaming than women?!

/hides

Please don’t hurt me.

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So, anyone else just kinda find this whole topic in general silly.

Like, the idea of trying to force inclusivity by making things exclusive is kinda, well silly for lack of wanting to sound mean.

I see this happen alot, unfortunately mainly with the idea of inclusivity(which is a good idea) in mind, I don’t know how to describe it but I’ve come up with a analogy, I call it ‘‘Rubberbanding’’, basically they saw something was exetremely messed up in one direction, so they then go in the opposite direction, unfortunately they do it just as extreme so in the end i reckon most people stand there questioning what extreme to go for, even though the most people know not to be a douche to anyone you casually meet in your day to day.

Just unfortunate but things will balance out eventually, just like a rubber band, itll go back and forth but eventually it’ll balance itself out in the middle.

thoughts?

You had enough attention, buddy, time to disperse now.
People ain’t got much to say no more.

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outstanding move

xD

Only the one you gave me.

Remember: this thread was never about me. You made it about me. I was the only thing you talked about.

I’m flattered, but I do wish we could have stayed on topic a bit more.

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yes please do tell him i was born wrong and need to be fixed <3

sincerely the trans person the news warned yo about /s

I don’t even know how to reply to you here, but I am glad you used “in my opinion”, because I don’t recognize this at all.

I do agree that women in general don’t necessary seek the very top, but we are plenty competative personalities in normal raiding and mythic+.

I don’t know how you have dodged so many of us, but I guess most of us don’t point out our gender while playing, because it’s usually irrelevant. My partner thought I was a man until I talked on voice during a raid, and he wasn’t the only one. I have met almost as many women in this game as men, and many of them, including myself, have been quite competative.

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My most usual Bg group are mostly women. Some times i’m the only guy in the party. And we can win 30 bgs without losing a single one.

As long as you have two hands your eyesight intact, and put effort into it, nothing else matters.

:dracthyr_comfy_sip:

(BTW, AFAIK, women constitute a majority in all countries and regions, mostly because they live longer, though that may be changing. I don’t find “gender minorities” well enough defined to comment. )

Careful with the concepts here!

Do you mean that women, on average, are not worse than men at video games, or do you mean that they don’t have to be worse?

If you roped in a hundred men and a hundred women off the street at random for a tournament for some video game to win prizes, would you bet on men ranking higher overall, or women?

Chess is not exactly a video game, but similar factors apply, and we have a massive amount of data.

Men who compete at chess are better than women who compete at chess by about the same degree that men are taller than women - about a standard deviation.

By FIDE rules, every player is rated on the same system, with the same formula, and men and women play against each other all the time. Still, FIDE maintains separate Open and Women’s tournaments and titles. Women can play in the Open sections, and can earn the general titles like grandmaster in exactly the same way as men, but most of them don’t, and go for the Women’s titles, which require a significantly lower rating and performance.

Certainly many women are better at chess than many men, in the same way that many women are taller than many men, but when you take a large sample, the difference is clear. Only one woman has ever been competitive at top level - maybe two, if you go back a century. The highest rated woman today is ranked #127. The women’s world champion is ranked #307.

Obviously, strength. muscle mass, aerobic capacity, heart size, and so on don’t maks a difference in chess any more than they do in video games, so we can’t look to simple biological performance factors for an answer

While we don’t have either the same numbers or the same level of data, it seems obvious to me that fewer women are competitive in WoW. How many women have the Famed Slayer title? have played in the MDI finals? Arena World Championship?

So, although I don’t see that women need a separate protected tournament excluding men in principle, I don’t mind that somebody is sponsoring one.

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