Why?
Why?
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WHY DO ALL OF THESE EXIST.
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Reported for spam when enough threads exist on the same topic.
The ret nerfs are done, it’s over now so you can breathe a sigh of relief. You can move on to the next class. Here’s a tip, fistweavers are doing crazy dps for a healer.
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We are in free country you can go back to the game .
Never saw so many paladina on the forum before
Judgment dispel is the biggest counterplay to all classes in the game and doesn’t have sense to exist .
It has literally no counterplay .
Only thing you can do is run away from the paladin but you are actually not doing damage when you do so
It’s dogsht design
Worst than blind-sap
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Lol someones triggers
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Shut up you delusional clown
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Whether you like it or not, rets have to get nerfed more and they probably will, there is no way around it. Their dispel mechanic breaks certain specs and makes them borderline unplayable.
Fistweaver is op and you may not be able to win them with certain specs, but at least you can play the game, while loosing to them, so it’s less of a priority for most players.
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You know what’s unplayable? Being kited by a frost mage as ret and you have no way to get in range. That’s why we need the dispel to get rid of snares and slows. If you want that removed then we need to increase our range to 30 yards. If ret loses the dispel, which is the only good pvp talent left, then it’s a dead wheelchair spec again.
Ret has insane burst damage, so you can’t also give them infinite mobility, you have to be able to kite specs, whose damage works like this. If a spec has no weakness, it’s gonna be overpowered and that’s bad game design. If they gave ret mobility or range, they would then have to nerf the damage output and make it a sustain dps spec, rather than a bursty one.
I think it’s fine like this. There are enough sustain dps specs with insane mobility in the game already, we don’t need to homogenize classes and make them play the same way.
A good example for this is DH pre nerfs btw. They had infinite mobility, insane sustain dmg, insane burst dmg and were too tanky. Blizzard nerfed the burst, now they still got decent burst, but you can counterplay it often times and they are still strong, but now they also got weaker on the defensive side and therefore are opressing, but not too op, more on the strong, but still relatively balanced side of things.
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I swear, I mained ret for years, and “being kited by frostmages” has been the least of my problems.
Judge dispel is not needed whatsoever, and its a pretty toxic ability. Its not a broken talent in itself, but its disgusting how often it dispels, just because we can have 2 charges of judge, and have divine toll on a 1 min cd with the option to have judgement autocast every 5 sec for 15 sec thereafter.
its disgusting, after divine toll we essentially permadispel everything.
If you don’t think thats broken, you live in a fairytale world.
DH shouldn’t have any burst, change my mind. Their damage profile is insane even without gigaweeps on every essence break.
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Why would I try to change your mind, I 100% agree.
I think the only burst DH should have is the hunt on a 1.5mins cd and by burst I mean it doing 1/3 of someone’s hp, not more. Also essence break should not exist at all. The only reason I didn’t level my dh is essence break being a thing, cba playing around it. I just wanna be able to jump through the arena, smacking people with big sustain deepz and not set up some 1-taps on a 40s cd, that’s stupid. If I wanted to do that I’d go play ret or sub.
Hard agree. Why Blizzard would ever give Rets Blessing of Spellwarding is beyond me. Even before this Rework, Ret’s kit was already stacked when it came to utility and peel for their teammates.
The fact that they can pick both Blessing of Sanctuary (45 s cd btw, so basically every stun you have to cc the ret too) and Blessing of Spellwarding is insane.
Combine it with a BM hunter in Cupid Cleave and it is near impossible to kill anyone on their team if played properly. No wonder 80% of the ladder consists of this comp.
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LOL? try catching a frost mage on any melee spec… other then ret
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why the spell bop hate? it literally shares cooldown with normal bop
one is vs magic and the other one vs melee and also takes up a pvp talent. I dont see the problem with it, its a 5 min cooldown
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nerf ret fast
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" 1 min wings,Magic bop and Judgement dispel "
somehow this sounds like a food recipe for an amazing night in with the lads
Yes judgment dispel is a counter to certain specs, just like warrior MS is a counter to healers and makes a waaaaay bigger difference. What you’re asking for is more homeginzation. If you’re going to take away dispel then ret needs more mobility or MS because nothing is more frustrating than a frost mage kiting you like a dog on a leash. Btw there are counters to judgmenet dispel. Here’s a tip:
Vinzoru having you all on strings yet again 
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dolff do us all a favor and play m+
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Imagine 1500 RSS rated Ret gives tips to multiglad Shaman xD I’ve seen everything.
No offence. There is no shame being 1500 stuck everyone was there for some short period of time but 1500 people especially on Ret and in shuffle do everything wrong. Literally it means you probably click some spells, don’t deal your dmg right, misuse your CDs and DR your CC. To argue with someone who is gladiator in the current season with such performance so far you need to have an enormous ego. I’m more than sure that Rets he play against are 10x better than you.
Sorry to be this guy but if you didn’t get 2k on Ret you’re doing plenty of things wrong.
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bro why are you assuming everyone wants to be a sweatlord? everyone else is paying the same money as you for this game, maybe they want to have fun, and maybe that fun is different than yours.
why do you think your opinion matters any more than their does, and you belittle them?
ain’t like it’s gonna grow you any extra inches, if you know what i mean
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