i have seen people on here who have 2k+ kills EACH for the 4 MoP world bosses and still yet to see a mount
true. but isn’t this information from wowhead most of the time? while they do what they can, without blizzard giving us HARD numbers on drop rate, any figure we come up with is always going to be off. but its also reached the point that blizzard have misled and lied and abused us so much at this point, that even if it was them saying it was 1% drop, i would not believe them because a) their misleading and lying behaviour in the past and b) cause so many people farm these things but keep not getting the mount.
someone theorised that only a tiny amount of people who have that mount actually got it when it was NOT 100% drop rate. when you look at the amount of guilds that killed blackhand mythic before the drop rate was reduced, then also that they would have gone multiple times to get more gear/get the mount for other guildies/sell mount runs, there may be a good argument for saying that almost no one has got that mount in the 3-4 years since it was reduced from 100% to 1%, which is bad consideing that he is one of the easiest mounts to farm with the teleport system (like HFC) when compared to something like Lich king, Yogg saron or garrosh, where you have to clear the whole raid, which can be VERY long like in SoO.
we agree on a lot, including the distribution of gold from people leaving the game, but rarity from legacy content is a thin ice defense.
- how many people do we see these days riding on the original vanilla racial mounts (white kodo etc), black scarab, black proto drake, the TotC mounts or any of the gladiator mounts pre Legion? next to noone. thats cause these players have mostly quit. rarity stops being a “thing” when it cant be seen by others.
- but again, most of these mounts post ICC are reskins and people might not even notice them in passing. without looking, whats the mount that drops from sha? for most people is it REALLY any different from any of the other cloud serpents if you dont hover over it, then look to see where it comes from. thats not like ashes, black scarab or mimirons head. they were all unique.
- also there is the final point that as these mounts are anything from 2 to 13 years old, many people who have them, would have them from farming, rather than from getting them when current, which is when rarity and bragging rights actually matter.
i think you are right about how it is now, but there should be something for rare items that the more you farm them, the better your odds become, so it would be a cumulative effect each time you kill the npc. a lot of mounts are looked behind a weekly reset anyway, and not everyone has an army of alts farming the same thing on every alt, every week. for a “normal” person with only 1 toon (rare these days i know) thats only 52 attempts a YEAR they can try. and if people are not getting drops after 2000 attempts, you really have to ask yourself maybe is it even worth trying?
overall, i dont like that blizzard uses it as a way to manipulate us into playing rather than giving us an actual good reason to play.
that is an interesting point and one i never considered. i wonder how many others have considered it either?
a perfect example is mythic kara mount. it is a 100% drop rate, but thats only when there is a full group there (5 players). otherwise it is 20% drop rate.
maybe it is the same for other content? ashes for example might be 1% for the raid, but thats a raid of 25 players. the actual drop rate for a person solo farming now would then be 0.0004%. (maths?)
thats just insane. and wrong