OP’a ilvl is fine, he can’t get into groups because of the score, sadly the score nowadays is more important than ilvl
me personally i take players 430-425 ilvl for my +10 keys as long as its proven by their scores that they are experienced with +10 dungeons and higher
Edit- because the difference between a 10+ key and 9- key is world apart, kind of…
I totally agree with you here…
In the beggining of the season I would do +10 as 415+ along with everyone else with the same ilvl and it was fine, that’s like the min intended ilvl to play it.
Now people are a lot more geared in general so I could understand some people going as far as wanting 425+ for a +10 push, but over 430 is just 
Edit: not saying you shouldn’t take higher than 430+ for your +10, I am currently way higher than that myself, of course you should if they apply, I take them too, but there is a difference between taking a overgeared applicant and demanding it.
My s2 is 1,5k, main current is 1,3… but my ret pally 433 ilvl still gets declined from +10s 
I blame anti ret bias
Itemlevel isn’t a clear indicator with titanforging in place anymore, so people choose this as their method to lower the chances of ‘bad players’ getting into their groups. A higher itemlevel means faster clear time, and do not forget that each piece that drops can warforge/titanforge so even a 430 player can get an upgrade from a normal level raid.
There is a varied player skill level in the game. You do not know how reliable a player can be simply based on itemlevel, so you raise the bar high enough that even if they aren’t good enough to meet the mechanical requirements the damage and health boost from their gear will lower the chances of them causing a wipe.
You can of course clear the raid and even the dungeons in lower itemlevel, but in a pug enviroment it is much harder to actually get there to try. Guilds are your only reliable way to do dungeons at the desired level, or a group of friends/community.
Perhaps a Ret Paladin problem?
Which I fail to understand, I have a Ret alt and it’s really good.
Which score do I need to do +10 and above ?
As far as I have checked I got 359?
My is not just good, he is a dark iron holy beast.
But pugs don’t want him 
same here my dude, my score with my paladin is 1050 and 435 ilvl and i get declined in every group i sign with as ret
but when i go on my DH with similar score of 1160K ilvl 437 i rarely get declined
So bloody true, that’s why I had to change my main 
Ret is doing very well in AoE with proper traits, i don’t know why people are not getting him into groups, my 423 ret could do wonders as AoE burst in some M+ where i could join. Paired with Vision of Perfection essence it’s very impressive AoE dps overall.
Ah i see, then blame Blizzard as always, but with 8.3 titanforging will be gone i hope and situation will be clearer.
That’s my major, I do crazy burst during PvP islands encounters.
I honestly don’t understand why pugs don’t like us 
We have quite handy utility as well.
I don’t know what is there to not like about ret paladins, extremely good utility, good dps, self sustain, being melee is another pros, insane burst. I really don’t know 
That Lay on Hands 
I find myself using it at least once per high key I join on my ret to save someone, it’s very useful.
Also as mentioned the AoE burst is amazing + single target damage is good too.
Oh, and support bubbles.
I think it is because of the meta. A DH is almost always taken, along with a rogue. The last spot is either saved for a monk (both for the debuff and for the more general utilities like Ring of Peace, transcendence boss ability manipulations and the sort) or for a caster (ele shaman, balance druid or on kite weeks likely frost mage.)
Ret utility is really good too, but they are extremely niche and they do not bring a damage buff along with them. A DH has high AoE burst as well, is more mobile, and on top of having the magic damage increase debuff they also have Darkness which helps a lot with specific trash group pulls.
EDIT: In S1 wasn’t in the best spot in M+, which was fixed somewhat in S2 but by then community perception kicked in.
That’s pretty much the cycle of life for ret pala:
start weak - get bad rep - get some buffs
But noone cares, rep stays 
Ion destroyed me when he recently said that they are adding seasonal affix with skips in mind!! WTF?!?! So why they add so many trash mobs, if everything now goes around skipping them? This company is throwing logs under it’s own legs.
Shroud = skill confirmed
Nightelf=skill=nerf inc.
Ah well you can run it any + difficulty then, if there is no specific drop you are after 
Dude, I don’t use sm at my m+13 range, cause pugs are random ppl random races.
I play nelf for the looks, so I don’t care much about SM