100% convinced Echo bribe wow development

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  • Rogue never meaningfully nerfed
  • Mages never meaningfully nerfed
  • they get knocked to the lowers by Unholy + Hunter and by midnight tonight Hunters and Death Knight are nerfed, rogue and mages not touched.
  • This has gone on since Shadowlands with there classes never ever being nerfed, even to the point they reroll better meta comps (Destro + Havoc) and those 2 specs only got nerfed after they went back to RMP.

I’m not disputing they are possible the best players in wow, however it just seems insane that i’ve yet to see there comps get any meaningful nerfs…EVER

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Remove that tinfoil hat bro. Unholy needed nerfs, rogue needs some tunibg. But mage seems fine.

Disc needs nerfs tho

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mage got some heavy nerfs but who would have guessed that you can nerf icelance by 70% and the specc is still topping dps with instants. rogue is a hopeless case to nerf because to effectively nerf rogue it would have to happen for BOTH assa and sub so basically never.

Not many people notice, but so far with every tuning update they’re buffing up arcane/fire, so if for any reason frost starts to suck you can always back off to arcane or fire making mage and rogue immune to nerfs

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15% on main dmg is a huge nerf. dk will fall off hard.

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i thought the same dk needed a nerfe for 100% sure, but so many 15% nerfs are a slight overkill.

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Subs about to lose its cdr. Id day thats a pretty huge nerf.

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Rogue and/or mage was literally in every single game on awc. Everything is definetely fine.

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Aren’t you used to see rogue/mage every game?

The issue is both numbers and toolkit.
It’s as if whoever developed these classes back in the days did pvp, while the other designers did not

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Just saw joefarnades on mage yesterday (like wtf first of all?) litteraly never cast a single spell beside sheep.

Everything instant with 0 downtime, basically ele sham with frost spell with disgusting numbers.

Even with further nerf it will still be really strong as you can’t really punish the spec and still you are untouchable

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No point nerfing any melee who require to be in melee till casters start casting again, maybe in the land of .1 percent its a big deal but it’s a fruitless endeavour when you kick sheep and hes casting it again 2 seconds later. Or just conforming it with db sheep.

Also whats with the priest warlock mage bias of having a kidney shot in the form of the interrupt being basically 5 second long

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Yeah it’s crazy they 100% bribed wow devs. I’ve heard they also made offerings to the devil through foul rituals, just in case something went wrong with bribing mere mortals.

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You say Tin Foil hat but since Shadowlands RMP has repeatedly dominated to a level unheard of and they never get nerfed…

Shadowlands
Fire Mage and Sub Rogue absolutely dominated everything… The Frist Season Jungle won and within 5 minutes was nerfed which left Hunter and Feral weak for the remainder of the expansion and RMP then dominated the next 3 seasons without any nerfs whatso ever. I think the CD reduction of COmbustion got nerfed by like 5 seconds…

Dragonflight
First season dominated by RMP… second season dominated by RMP… Third season saw the DH redesign and a new set bonus for Destro which brough tthem up… Echo Rerolled to these and they weren’t nerfed until they went back to RMP…

Now we look at the current ladder which is absolutely dominated by Disc and Rogue Mage once again being in every game… ye the one comp that puts echo down (Hunter DK) get INSTANTLY nerfed… They’e literally made it so Dwon’t do enough damage and the Hunter CDS will always fail against RMP set ups… Absolute JOKE!!!

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Yet they won almost all their games with boomie/lock

So they also rerolled S3 and S4 and still won. You starting to see the common denominator or you still need help?

Above 2k2 for Europe: 10% feral, 9% BM, 6.5% frost and 4.8% sub. 5.9% UH.

And the cherry on the cake. They got beaten by hunter/ele. Ele is getting buffed!!! OMG ZEEPEYE BRIBING WOW DEVS.

I couldn’t care less about who wins as long as we have good and intense games, but your whole argument is based on absolutely nothing, except for the fact that SL RMP was busted.
So yeah be careful on stormy days, your giant tinfoil hat might get you into troubles.

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bye bye dks time to log on ur bm hunters

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fun fact, People cried about Jungle, until they saw that Fmp is even more op

Hunter is Already insanely broken, what is mage then please? a demi god?

i get that the synergie is just too good with Poly spam into cyclone spam, but mage survivability is kinda out of controll + the fact that they are Jumping like elemental shamans now cuz everything except poly, ring of fire and frostbolt is instant lmao

got also an nerf on the talent what made Bm so broken.

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If it needed nerfs why are you stuck at 1100 in 3s?

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Not saying ele has become some 100% hardcasting spec, but it has to cast significantly more in TWW compared to DF…frost, balance, fire and even destro are having more instants now…which is why ele, for the first time since it was introduced, is using precog x)

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Echo also has a Warlock one trick and Warlock just got nerfed again. Rogue and Mage have always been Blizzard’s favorites.

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They play really good and master classes that are mostly always above average if not OP especially rogues so this is expected.
Its crazy how much a rogue can single handedly carry in any form of PvP content. But at least it requires some form of skill compared tp say warr or dh

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As much as rogue is skilled in 3v3 it is primitive in 1v1. And absolutely the opposite for war and dh.