100% convinced Echo bribe wow development

no warrior and dh are still the easiest specs in the game regardless of 1v1 or multiplayer setting.

If you have absolutely 0 clue about 1v1, please stop making stupid statements.

Mage and rogue are very forgiving to a mistakes with all that block/vanish healings, immunities and cc give possibilities to reset fight a bunch of times to try again if you failed.

while as war or dh you simply dont have such powerful defensive and healing kit, so if you wasted your cd or get rogue burst for example without pre-defensive or trinket you are dead in one stunlock.

And also about rogues skill in duels, i was talking to one of the best dueling rogues (with around 25k duels played)near elwynn and he said he is using sequence 1 button macro for oneshot burst, nuff said.

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Why are you pretending 1v1 skirmishes are a big deal? There are a bunch of classes that do extremely well in 1v1s. Fortunately for you, thereā€™s no PvP bracket that rewards jacksh*t for winning duels outside Stormwind.

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Balance in 1v1 is far better than on arena, look what is being played now its 6-7 specs every single game on awc, because arena is dps race like m+.

And whats the point of pvp with heal? Its basically someone who secure your fails.
What you gonna say after someone kills you on outdoor? Look at my title? Get a healer and I will win? Thatā€™s pathetic.
Its an mmorpg above all, arena
3v3 literally killed pvp in wow.

Letā€™s look at what has in fact seen play in the AWC so far

Fury, Unholy, Enhancement, Elemental, Devastation, MM, BM, Assa, Sub, Outlaw, Feral, WW, SP, Affli, Frost Mage, Arcane, Discipline, Holy Pala

Now, I donā€™t know how to count. But my gut feeling tells me, that thatā€™s more than 6-7 specs.

Well, thatā€™s the nature of an MMO, and it always has been. Some classes are better as soloing content than others. This includes PvP and has been this way since the game came out.

When I see RMP at AWC, its time for coffee or mute video. Since day 1 dominating pvp, so boring. And never ending rmp players saying, but yeee its takes skill to play rmp. Same skill as after trap follow up with clone ect. Wooowzer such skill, maybe if compare with some monkeys.

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Lucky for you that thereā€™s basically only 1 team playing RMP inthe AWC atm, then :slight_smile:

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Look. Lets talk about warlock for example. All 3 specs are playable and decent in duels, but on arena 2 of them are very bad.

Or dh, i was winning duels when dh was strong and im winning now, when dh is weak. You know where exactly i feel that dh is bad? Only on arena.

Fire mage? Absolute trash on arena, but playable in duels.

Arena is very sensitive for dps that you class can do, duels are not.
Yet there is always someone who claims arena has better balance. After classes lost their identity and become very similar, duels become way more balanced then arena.

What are you even trying to argue at this point? That every spec of every class should be entirely equally good?

With how every class has different class identity, different kits and different strengths & weaknesses, all specs will NEVER be equally good at all different brackets (1v1, 3v3, BGs). Itā€™s just not possible.

Arena is a lot more balanced now, than it has been at the majority of the gameā€™s history. Youā€™re making arguments that itā€™s the same very specs seeing play, which are simply factually incorrect.

thats propaply the worst take ive seen this month. actually insane if you really believe that.

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I believe that because im playing duels on many classes currently. Let me guess, you think rogues and mages are unwinnable.

i believe that some specs have zero chance in winning other specs no matter how good they are. Duels is more rock paper scissors than any other pvp gamemode which just makes sense because 1vs1 has limited options.

being a warrior or a boomkin for example instantly gives you a big disadvantage

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In DF I was dueling with my fury war and its felt a lil bit OP. Not sure how its now.

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Oh yes, so much advantage being arms war or boomkin on arena. How many players in those specs above 2k? 0.1%?

Itā€™s like you donā€™t even understand what makes some arena comps work and others not work.

Good arena comps consist of specs that cover each othersā€™ weaknesses and complement each other.

Specs like arms and balance are indeed not the best in 1v1 situations for different reasons, but paired with 2 other classes that can cover your weaknesses, arms and boomkin can definitely be played at a high level in arena (even though theyā€™re not the strongest specs atm, which you do point out although it makes no difference in regards to their general viability in arena compared to 1v1s)

hahahahah No, itā€™s been going on since the game came out, rogue and mage are gods.

the dk will never be tier 1, the devs have hated this class forever. They take care that it is never strong, especially at the end of the patch

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DK is almost always good, just DK players must be the most crying players ever. Dunno same character players choose to play DK or smth.
Thats just my observation.

As long as ā€˜THE MOVEEEEEā€™ keep losing and inducing mental breakdowns from Sterge and Wizk, keep the bribes coming!

DK hasnt actually been good since BFA?
DK was good for a very short time in shadowlands, the rest of the expansion it was a victim spec that had to run away for pillars every time abomination limb was on cooldown.

DK was very good for a month in DF, the rest of the time it was B or C tier. Only class to not have a single rank 1 on EU both in season 3 and season 4 of DF.

Now current expansion it has less single target damage than sub rogue and is getting nerfed by 60% across 4 abilities

SL with those slappy hands was slapping alright. DF could be a lil bit better, but still was good class to play.