100% convinced Echo bribe wow development

Yep, we reroll to classes the devs love. World of Devcraft. They said they listen to players’ feedback bla bla, such liars

Maybe, gotta test tomorrow, but i can do 1.3 mil AoE burst dps and 700k steady in 3v3.
Feels like 15% is needed and im a DK main alt.

Yes it is alot of mages and rogues in AWC, that’s because it’s really hard to get that good on Rogue and mage, but when you do, it is noticed.
When i play 3v3 on 1700 MMR or 2400 MMR. i face more of other classes than rogue and mage.

You can’t compare AWC class representation with normal ladder. Makes no sense. Not everyone are AWC skilled players.

good, but no tiers s

there was no dk r1 in s4 s2 df, you have to ask yourself the questions
normally each season there is at least 1 r1 class, the dk was the only one not represented

I’m not even talking about competitions where the only dk that won was in wotlk, where the players didn’t know how to play like they do now (and we saw with classic wotlk that the dk was also “not good” in the top tier)

How much arms and boomkin on high level arena you have seen?
Go and watch ladder stats before saying such nonsense.

That is not what we’re discussiong at all. You’re really making it obvious how clueless you are.

The fact that arms and boomkin hasn’t been the strongest lately (hence why arms just got buffed too) so that they haven’t been played much lately, has NOTHING to do with whether or not they’re more viable in arena than 1v1s, which is what we’re discussing.

If you can’t see that those two things work independently of each other, then you’re absolutely lost mate

Nice arguments “you are lost mate” “you dont understand and clueless”.

You talking about no balance in 1v1, i clearly show you that there is no balance in 3v3 too(where in your words balance should be), which is clearly can be seen with statistics.

The difference is that balance in duels are more static, but on arena meta is constantly shifting. But there is not something even close in 3v3 that can be called “balance”.

You better get yourself together and stop making stupid posts.

Why are you acting like those were my arguments, while ignoreing my actual argument?

You’re arguing in such bad faith

Aaand another stupid post without any sense and arguments. Keep it up.

Arms and boomkin are not worse in 1v1/outdoor/blitz then on arena rn.

Same about other non meta arena specs such as outlaw, enhance, they are all better on other situations then on arena.

Keep ignoring my actual argument and telling me I have no argument. You’re doing great :upside_down_face:

I’m over this discussion. You’re not trying to be constructive at all

kEeP iGNoRiNG mY ArGuMeNt (did no arguments in like 5 last posts)
What are you, a broken record?

Go watch arena statistics before saying that every spec is working on arena pAiReD wItH oThEr SpEcS.

No, they are not. Otherwise they would be represented highly in top 1000. But how many of them there? 1%? Or maybe 0.1?

rogue need to play class because they lack skill to play anything else

if there is only one team on the planet who can make RMP work at a high level, does the comp need nerfing?

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Nice copium. I supported Swapxy, Zeepeye, Fuseton and Numilz but you have to be extremely out of touch to say that Echo only wins because of buffs and nerfs. These guys are 2 levels above the competition atm.

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There isnt only 1 team? Have you paid no attention? RMP now wins AWC games by M+ pve’ing down warlock/dk teams. Thats literally the opposite of whats supposed to happen with the burst/control comp. Complete overtuned ridiculous rogues and mages.

Bro you need to keel up with patches then. RMP plays like this since Season 2 DF and it’s not that they want it. Blizzard nerfed all CC besides Fear and Clone so it’s not worth pressing.

Believe me that any mage would like to push for Poly on the healer but the amount of damage you take is not worth doing it. If they could do it then you’d see real RMP destroying everyone. The reason only Echo played it is that only them could make it work. Also they were forced out of Mage by BM Hunter teams and ended up playing Feral/Affli/H Pala. And that’s where I’d look for the most broken specs. Affli got nerfed but Feral and H Pala stayed untouched.

show me one RMP team outside of Echo that has made a top placing in AWC

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He can’t, because he literally doesn’t care what’s actually true. He just makes something up that fits his narrative. Don’t bother taking him seriously :joy:

just go and watch NA Awc cup 1 and 2, you’ll understand that rmp is pretty weak comp for tournaments

Overall NA compared to EU looks like Championship compared to Premier League.