Look at this clown with level 10 char and hidden profile dunking on Legend players.
Everyone, lets laugh at him and maybe he goes away.
Yes, Arms warrior is among the worst class to play right now in Shuffle. Zero heals, zero self support, zero defense against big magic burst, zero immunities or defs while stunned, you are entirely dependent on what the healer decides to do, zero kill setup on your own, zero CC.
( Before 1200xp clowns call the 3 second stun a CC )
It still worked before last week, because you were put with healers same MMR as you. So they played decent, dispell roots, paid more attention to you because how squishy warrior is.
Now, at 2k mmr you get 1400 healers. You lose everything, because any class that has 1 or 2 good ccs can land a kill regardless of how you play. Any class with a root can take you out of the game for as long as he wants. Any class with strong self heals can last more then you with a bad healer, then you can. Even worse now, the entire match mmr is dragged down, so you always play -150 under your MMR, you always gain less CR from wins, and huge CR loss on losses. Its a sh1tshow.
I want to wait 45 min queues again and play with same mmr healers.
If I go 2-4 Now = 2 net losses = -50 CR.
If I go 6-0 = 6 net wins = + 70 CR.
It makes no sense, I need 55-60% Win rate to stay in place, not talking about climbing.
Honestly, I think it’s ridiculous Blizzard performed some kind of ‘stealth update’ in patch 10.5, tweaked the MMR system/that of healers, to ‘ensure shorter ques’, but at the actual expense of the quality of gameplay overall.
I have been experiencing similar issues to the posters above, i’m frequently getting healers with 300+ lower MMR just thrust into my lobbies, and it’s making climbing extremely frustrating now.
I hope that Blizzard revert this unnecessary change, because it’s counter intuitive to the entire point of an MMR system in the first place.
I have nothing against people trying to learn to play their class, but please stop thrusting them into higher brackets, because what happens is it just allows 1 dps to go and solo the enemy healer, whilst the rest of the team is actually pursuing a kill target.
There’s no way team mates can peel for one another, when common defensives aren’t even pressed.
I’ve honestly had more ‘3-3’ games this week than in the whole of the season, because you’re now forced to carry less-skilled healers, and it has just ruined an otherwise fun PVP system.
I’d much rather sit 30 minute ques to have the entire lobby matched to my own current skill level.
arms has actually the 2nd highest dps representation above 2400 in solo shuffle right now.
Its insanely good in shuffle.
Maybe just maybe the problem isnt the system or your class but yourself? You ever thought of that?
There are plenty of warriors at top rating, its one of the best specs in the game so why dont you start with blaming yourself before you blame everyone else?
in general healers who are 300 mmr below you are most of the time atleast equally good players. DPS rankings are still a bit inflated.
because ret was giga broken for a week? Maybe you are just not good enough on arms yet?
I mean potentially, as I agree the rankings are inflated overall.
I have literally witnessed some getting solo’d 1v1 though and not utilizing defensive cooldowns.
I have a lot of sympathy for healers trying to play in Solo shuffle at the moment, given the mongo melee meta in general, but they shouldn’t be forced into higher rated games before they’re ready.
Logically it just makes them feel bad/want to quit more, makes their team mates suffer because they can’t survive the insane pressure, and makes for a worse game overall.
oh no the 1900cr stucking s tier warrior got exposed and now is getting personal?
of course these warriors got the rating this week? Warrior got buffed last week. Their representation is raising day by day compared to last week.
idk not really my experience yet. Healers make mistakes all the time but they are doing it on both sides it mostly evens out by time no matter what rating they are and i felt that 2400-2500 mmr healers could easily keep up in 2800 mmr lobbies.
Dont think this change was needed but dont think its as bad as people make it.
Yeah I mean, it could just be differing experience at different bracket levels (i’m only at around 2200 MMR), but it has felt very noticeable this week after the latest patch.
I appreciate everyone makes mistakes (i’m far from perfect myself), but even as a Demon Hunter I can’t instant switch to cross-peel, when stuff like dispersion etc isn’t even being used lol.
Try to record your games, it helps a lot to notice all your mistakes you made.
I recorded some games imand i was disgusted the mistakes i’ve made in my games (bad kiting, not pressing defensives during burst…) And this happen at 1500 mmr
I didnt get personal with the balance clown complaining about warriors, but I could. That what you want?
The only thing that is stuck is your head between your ( )( ), keep seething.
So I need to have the Legend title in order to have a valid opinion on this topic? If I proved to you I do have it would you then admit you are wrong and it’s your own fault you can’t climb in shuffle, or would you just find another reason to try and dismiss what I say?
That’s not happening though. It’s lifetime challenger dps players with inflated shuffle ratings complaining they get 1500 healers in their 1900 games and saying that’s the reason they can’t climb.
i mean i climb lock after all nerfs done to demo with 90 played 60% w/l to 2.1 and did it over week ago in 2 days
and it is extremely annoying to play caster in 3 melee lobbys and especially would be now when the healer there is also a dps as all heals are now disc since last reset
i do not understand how melees or overtuned arms currently would struggle
im sorry but its like talking to a brickwall
all who are stuck now on arms, if u cant push on dps because blizz mmr changes or w/e roll a disc and take advantage of the situation of healers stealing higher lobbys rating currently
it is dirty trick and effective climb cause disc is now overtuned and broken beyond nothing else matters and u can burst like dps and play on 1.5kmmr higher than u belong
take advantage of it if there is no other means u are able to climb
if one cant climb with arms they will need every trick on earth every trick from sleeve possible to use
Bro, I’m not saying that Arms warrior is weak. On the contrary, they are strong. But very dependent on the healer. When your healer just can’t press the dispel button every 15 seconds, it’s very annoying. 1400 healer wants to go to the center of the arena and just free cast. But on the 2000 rating, this is no longer allowed to be done. I am an extremely weak Arms Warrior. I’m just learning how to play it. But when a game beginner gets to 2000mm and doesn’t understand basic things… Imagine a 2x2 game and you’re Arms War in it. Now when healers’ mmr is 500 lower, the team with more own control saves and mobility wins. The Warrior just doesn’t have it. I say it again. I increase my rating when the mmr of heals is the same or higher than us. But it immediately goes down when the mmr of heals is lower by 500.
A warrior is very dependent on his healing. 1400 heal to go to the center of the arena gets 2-3 CC and the warrior becomes garbage especially if there are 2 casters against him. I play as a ret paladin. If my heal is stupid, I can just press the bubble to move behind the column and heal myself. But a warrior is different…
I say it again. I am a very bad Warrior. But playing as a warrior with 1400 heals is impossible. With any class, you can kill a warrior if he has a dumb healer.
In my last arena with me healer shaman 1560 cr. The beginning of the arena we went on the attack. The enemy Ele Shaman placed the roots totem. My shaman is 5 meters away from me. I don’t want to burn my CDs at the start of a fight. I expect him to press only 1 button … For the next 6 seconds, I just stood in the center of the arena…
And it’s an elementary thing…
It’s not 2008 anymore. Arms Warrior actually has quite a bit of healing, and if you disagree go look at the last AWC vod where Arms healed as much as the Ret in some of the games.
Stop using healers as an excuse for not being able to climb. It’s 100% on you, and the sooner you accept responsibility for your performance the sooner you will be able to start improving and making progress. Everyone in shuffle is responsible for the rating they are at and 2k Arms Warriors are no exception.
Dad’s professional x8 champion AWC player. Or please don’t write. Or show your character with 1200cr. You’re teaching everyone here, but you’re hiding behind a level 10 character. Baby are you afraid of your 1200 mmr?
