17th of February 2019. Waiting for faction balance FIX URGENTLY

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Blizzard can do many things but they can’t fix terrible Alliance crybaby players like the op.

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Newp. Siege of Orgrimmar happened the way it looked, The simple basic narrative of ‘War Crimes’ and ‘Warlords of Draenor’ would not have been possible otherwise. I mean literally not possible. Garrosh would have been dead under the Doomhammer, if Varian Wrynn was not there to stop Thrall. The Alliance was there. That all Happened.

Almost balances out the Alliance favouritism in terms of narrative. Almost. Not Quite.

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Ahahahahahahahaahaha…
Hahahahahaha

Well somebody is angry lol. Your data is false obviously as posted by Punyelf, the population difference has never exceeded a 60-40% difference between factions at worse, and recent data , as Punyelf mentioned, showcase that Alliance actually outnumber Horde.

As for your requests they are laughable Alliance biased at best, apologies.

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How can Alliance be more PVE ?
If you check wowprogress you hardly see Alliance guilds in the list, PVE and PVP wise

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Yeah, heroic Horde revolutionaries imprisoned Garrosh. That’s what I said. It might count as victory for Alliance if he’d be imprisoned in Stockades in Stormwind.

Well, Alliance is quitting the game, so you won. Grats.

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You forgot to add :studio_microphone::arrow_down: :smiley:

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Having more PvE players in therm of row number and having the best PVE players (which is what is representend on wowprogress) is not the same thing.

Especially considering that “PVE” is not only raids.

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cut the trollin. only 120 matters as active pop.
at 120 90% of top pve/pvp is horde. so yes there is a huge problem.

alliance bias? wow…i cant even

Rest are alts or tryouts, even new players rush to 120 nowadays (and then quit because its so boring)

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Ret vs ret will now always be won by Zandalari, low on health > (depending on situation) bubble or use your stun > racial. meanwhile the opponent in the same situation has to use LoH…

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this seems to be true. i’ll admit that. but how do you propose fixing the issue? cause your original ideas are not worth the bits they were digitally created with. messing about with effect/cd nerfs/buffs will just be painful over all, and moving belves and nightborne wont help. why do you even want nightborne? if we’re talking about racials, how is theirs great in raids? even elsewhere, a 3min slow iirc?

the only thing i can think of is disabling racials in m+, raids and rated pvp. but lets be honest, with the exception of the trolls racial in jaina kill, and the controversy over new zanda one, have racials been an issue for anyone for a long time really? most are on 2 min cds, so not being used tons. and remember, alliance had best racial with free trinket for a long while.

and finally, maybe a lot of 120 alliance players just dont like high end raid or pvp? there would still be more than horde, but they not doing high end content. i would have thought most people entering a fantasy game would want to be human, dwarf, elf or orc. 3 of these are alliance, though belfs have split the immersion on what type of elf you want to be. i personally prefer the architecture of SW and IF. only SMC from horde side appeals to mew

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my suggestions will exactly FIX faction imbalance.
you are just crying to not do that because you are in the supreme position

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You can’t reason with someone who is out to destroy the horde as a faction.

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ye retributor the destroyer of factions…stop trolling puny. these are pragmatist solutions that will fix faction balance within a month

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I’ve never comfortably had a faction balance or alliance favored phase in my instance ./fact cause its my statement and nobody but me, is well me!

Just wish racials didn’t dictate how well a mirror match up would go/ how much it impacted major raid teams etc. :stuck_out_tongue:

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No you are trolling. They are never going to do anything like that. You can’t have our races. You can’t nerf our racials and buff yours.

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ofc they wont, hence why the game is turning into a one faction game called world of superracial hordecraft

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May I ask why you feel the faction imballance is a problem? :slight_smile:

When I started playing the game (as a horde) the horde was helplessly under represented, the alliance side was so huge, that a lot of the servers was affected by it.

I didnt know at the time that Aszune was one of the really alliance represented, but found out after I got beated to a pulp every 2. minute by a group of alliance players :smile:

Is it really so bad that the scales tips from side to side from time to time?
Most people choose their char based on what they like (story, race, areas), I think a far less really crunch so many numbers in order to choose the right race, class, faction :slight_smile:

In most guilds I am now I talk with people who play both factions, it makes it more fun to talk - pure faction idiots can be a bit tiring.
And I get the impression that there are less “I play only one faction” now, than there was before :slight_smile:

Yes I have seen the numbers represented, by I still have a little trouble seing the problem :slight_smile:

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OK, i’ll bite.

1 - Factions can never be balanced unless everything that makes a race different is removed or there is a like for like equivalence i.e. humans and forsaken share racials, orcs and night elves do etc.

Net Result - Race identity is lost
Will this fix your issue with faction imbalance -> NO
Why - because there is no incentive to move back from horde to alliance

2 - Top Players in Top guilds gravitate towards the best racials
If you give alliance better racials then all the top guilds will move over to alliance

Net Result - Same Issue - Different Faction
Will this fix your issue with faction imbalance -> NO
Why - because all the top guilds will move over to alliance instead.

3 - Is there even a problem
No, there isn’t.
Why - because you can’t look at the top guilds and use that as any kind of reference because the reason they are top is they want to do the highest content as quickly as possible, even .5% is an added bonus. But this 1% of players cannot be counted when looking at faction balance because for the normal raider the extra .5% is irrelevant.

It’s like looking at all Ferrari, McLaren, Lamborghini cars then looking at your Nissan Micra and thinking. I need a V8 3L engine in this because all the top cars have one.

If you discount the top guilds and look at the numbers again, or indeed all the numbers then the faction in balance disappears.

TL:DR - you can never balance the factions if all you look at are the top 100 guilds because these will gravitate to the better overall faction racials.

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glad you agree horde racials need a nerf and alliance ones need a buff in order to fix the real problem called faction imbalance 65-35 H-A

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You clearly can’t read - you need to fix that issue first.

2 - Top Players in Top guilds gravitate towards the best racials
If you give alliance better racials then all the top guilds will move over to alliance

Net Result - Same Issue - Different Faction
Will this fix your issue with faction imbalance -> NO
Why - because all the top guilds will move over to alliance instead.

This says the complete opposite of what you read - buffing alliance and nerfing horde will not fix your perceived imbalance.

net result - troll confirmed

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