Poor in the sense of “everyone in this forum seems to be higher than you” poor.
2k is pretty good, especially in EU.
YEP exactly. That’s why DH is so sh*t rn, they are no threat at all after the hunt. The hunt is literally the only good thing about DH rn, everything else is piss, so people can just counterplay the entire class by throwing every defensive at it and therefore making the enemy DH not have a win-condition. And you do not even have this one win-con of your class… I’d assume that most of your wins are achieved by Mindgames, that’s why you are so focused on finding a venthyr priest and nothing else. And then again I ask you, why should a venthyr priest cuck himself by playing with a useless dps, if he can just play some meta comp and have other win-cons outside of his own toolkit.
Now your argument is that venthyr somehow makes DH overall much better, so you do not rely on the hunt, but it does not really. Your class may be a bit better outside of the hunt then sure, but it’s still piss, while only being slightly less piss. Honestly, I pity every healer who wastes his time playing with you, unless they do not care about rating and just wanna farm some weeklies or do w.e, but then they could also do both these things better and faster with someone else. I don’t know what else to tell you, at the end of the day it’s your decision, I’m just saying it’s hypocritical to expect all of this stuff from your healers really, when you yourself do not bring anything to the table. I mean you ask for your healer to play meta built, while you yourself refuse to do so yourself. How do you not see that?
you dont need perfect setups for NF btw… if you get procs on ur leggy with the conduit in demon form u melt ppl without the hunt. Chaos damage is all elemental damage. Holy + Shadow + Fire + Nature + Frost + Arcane + Physical.
does it really tho?
I’m pretty sure chaos Dmg isn’t physical Dmg tbh. Chaos is all magic school, not all types of Dmg. He still should take mortal dance anyway.
its all Schools
Physical is not a school of magic, hello ?
it say so on google.
Chaos is a school of magic wielded by warlocks and demon hunters. It’s a uniquely comprehensive multi-school, combining five or more of the seven damage types. It always includes Arcane, Fire, Frost, Nature, and Shadow; and can optionally include Holy and Physical.
It is common knowledge at this point that the DH mastery does nothing for their physical Dmg. That would make that stat the best no matter what if it did.
always been all schools including physical.
I met a vampire DH in 3s today. He was zero threat lol
i guess the venthyr dh is a consistent built
with the mastery meaning noone knows when to use his defensives vs anoraaz
i suggest shackles and no mastery
So you’re saying that DH mastery increases the Dmg of The Hunt ? Of their auto attacks ? Of Sinful Brand ?
Or just the Dmg of their spells labeled as Chaos ?
You should know that as DH tbh
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ment just chaos spells. mybad
It is actually. Don’t ask why, but it is. Chaos damage even used to be a mix of all school, Physical included, and thus would hit through Cloak (Demo Lock attacks in WoD for instance).
They changed how Chaos damage was after Legion with the introduction of DHs. Now, it seems like not all Chaos attacks have the same schools. For instance Chaos Bolt at the moment is a mix of Shadow, Arcane, Frost, Fire and Nature. Holy and Physical are not included (and therefore Cloak negates the attack). However Chaos Strike is Shadow, Arcane, Fire, Frost, Nature AND Holy and Physical (and thus hits through Cloak). But both spells are labelled as dealing “Chaos damage”.
Chaos damage is kind of the “we just want to mix things up with few rules, we call it Chaos damage, don’t ask questions”.
Whatever Chaos school is exactly, we can agree that a mastery build for havoc won’t increase the dam of Blade Dance ?
You are correct, it does not increase it. It only affects abilities directly dealing Chaos damage, not abilities dealing only some select schools, else it would increase every ability since Chaos contains every school.
No increase to Blade Dance, no increase increase The Hunt, etc.
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yep. totaly forgot it was just physical 
but it would still be better consistent dmg
How do you know that? demonhunter has only the hunt as ‘‘partly chaos’’ there might be a %
Such information is readily available for anyone willing to spend 10s researching it. Three ways you can find out easily and quickly, even after doubting someone who knows and told you so :
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Wowhead is a decent default resource for that. By looking at a spell you have the list of what affects it. The DH Mastery is not in the list for Blade Dance while it is for Chaos Strike.
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Logic is something nice too. Since Chaos damage is mostly used to encompass all the damage schools in the game there is no point in creating a Mastery effect that increases “Chaos damage” and specify “Chaos” if you also meant all subdivisions of Chaos damage. In that case you’d just write “increases all damage”.
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Experiment works as well. Log on a DH or create a trial one, hit something several times with Blade Dance, type out the average number somewhere, then equip more mastery items, repeat. Same with Chaos Strike. The difference will be … striking.
Oh and to correct you :
This is false.
Blade Dance is Physical, not Chaos.
Immolation Aura is Fire, not Chaos.
Throw Glaive is Physical, not Chaos.
Demon’s bite is Physical not Chaos.
Vengeful Retreat is Physical, not Chaos.
I’ve not gone over every ability but this short list means “you need to look things up before making statements”.
It always amazes me how people are unable to get information that can be obtained with 3 clicks.
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