2v2 is screwed, like 3v3 is healthy compared to it

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2v2 really reached its conclusion and can probably be removed at this point to make space for more solo modes. There just is no population left

Anecdotal evidence : Trying some new build we que at 2,2 mmr which this late in the season should be quite full of people.

  1. game priest / Bm win
  2. Game rogue 16xR1/ pally lose
  3. Game priest / bm win
  4. Game rogue / pally lose

And so on. Basically a feedback loop of we take mmr from the one team , lose to the other team and get send back to take mmr from the same team before, so we can lose it again against the same rogue / pally

It’s a circle of just facing the same teams over and over.

Can we replace 2s with Solo que 1 round 3s that feed into the normal 3s ques ? :>

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I second this.

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Basically 2s 3s are dead, and solo shuffle 2k4 mmr never proc (around 45min waiting) and bgb 0 proc (even 0 estimation) till 22h(atleast at 3k5mmr)when I have to go bed…

Game is litteraly unplayable now, don’t know what they are waiting for to fix it.

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I don’t know how to fix this outside of letting all ques flow into each other. Aka real Solo que. Even if they increase mmr in 2s. Like who cares , if only 3 teams play and all rewards are more free in BGB anyway …

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Yeah bgb gave everything to usual low rated player, why bother play other bracket if you won’t ever get glad/legend?

Pretty sad if you aren’t streamer or jobless you can’t play at all.

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I wait so long for games at 2.4+mmr in shuffle, that i am leveling my 4th ww monk to que up again xD

And bg blitz from my own expirience you have to que up from 22:00 till 02:00 to get consostant games at 3.4kmmr

Before and after i have estimated time 0 and wait for years

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they don’t care, classic and other versions give more money than retail. And classic is played like some sort of survival early access game

all twitch is classic, if they would only separate classic and retail section on twitch, retail would have only 500 average viewers

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They don’t know how to fix it.

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2s is just dumb now. Used to be relativeky healthy, easy to just queue with lots of matches. Now first month or so you’re better off getting 1.6/1.8, stopping for 2-3 months and then gain a few hundred cr as your mmrs finally gone up by 300.

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Yes exactly what I did as well but I end up with 3 char with same mmr shuffle and bgb so I can’t play them at all except in week end.

That’s just insane, fortunately I farm mount and some other meta achievement and secret stuff beside otherwise my sub is litteraly useless.

I see a lot of r1 on Twitter everyday crying pvp is dead, it’s unreal especially for a season 1.

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Ngl, I’ll never get how the best pvp player can play classic and bash mobs 24/7 then die and repeat.

Beside collecting viewer and earn money on twitch there is no way they find that fun xD

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I like the idea of ques merging. Like 1 player can que into 2s and 2 players can que into 3s, all while brackets are conected with solo que 3s.

Would make the game feel more alive.

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DF made 2s bad with how strong healer/dps teams were. TWW completel destroyed the bracket. Double dps needs to be a playable option for that bracket to be fun again, there’s no point in playing anything but meta comps there now sadly

BM/feral are a big problem, feral dots just being way too strong vs a team without a healer and BM passively winning games by just existing

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It’s literally just rogues all day long , and warriors

Bm I understand there are a few Atleast but feral is cringe to mention

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I rly like 2s if you have a insane active season with a ton of players, i think the last one was sure pre soloq

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I think what is bro trying to say is as any variations of a double d you automatically lose to any BM/Feral team basicly specs that can play very safe while killing you with air.

Warrior teams are usually a good match up for most double d or at least winnable.

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Which I would say is the toxic part of double dps teams atm

Rogue + mage is burst cc and hide to eat if it fails

And the few games against ferals with a shadow was basically , dots —-> hide heal

Idk if we want double dps viable like this

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2’s have literally never been a balanced bracket, it is the worst bracket of all…but also easiest for people to access with a regular partner.

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It isn’t about balance. Else I would point out the disgusting thing that disc is.

Iam talking about the lack of population that you basically play against the same 3 teams the whole evening

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2v2 skirmish is more fun than rated at this point.
You meet other specs than the fotm and there’s no healer you can’t kill till past 40% damp.

Yes, certain specs have an advantage with no healer around but it’s still more enjoyable overall…
And you get fast queues!

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