468 DH low dps

Classes Demon Hunter
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Hello guys, so me and a friend we started wow again and we joined a guild as well for raids. As a demon hunter i was supposed to be in the top 5 dps but im just above healers or tanks. I dont know what I’m doing wrong i have watched many videos and read a lot about rotations essences etc but still my dps sucks! i even got a warning that if i dont change my dps i might not be invited for raids anymore. My friends are laughing at me because they say i play a char with 4 buttons and you cant dps and thats kind of true. Anyway you can find my char and check him out please. If you can say a tip or something i will be glad. Thanks

Char name: traulos
Server: stormscale
Europe

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Havoc doesnt scale with the gear ilvl at all its all about itemization, you need specific azerite traits too stack then you need weapons with voidlash from ra-den ,some infinite stars for st dps or twilight devastations for aoe. Also avoid mastery stat as much as possible, its terrible secondary for havoc go full haste/ versa and then become ultimate, unkillable, brainwashed killing machine… easy welcome to BFA

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There are a few things that are key to improving your dps:

  • Sim untill you find the ideal setup for every single situation. Raids bots or askmrrobot are both great for that.
  • “Never stop casting”. You need uptime to do good dps. Find ways to create extra uptime, extra adds to cleave, ways to keep dpsing non stop.
  • Check your loggs and compare them to the top dogs. How does their first 10-20-30-etc window compare to yours.

Tomorrow ill check what i can find for you.

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I was watching your achievements and it doesn’t seem you have played much?

Are not clicking are you, if you do I really suggest you have a look on youtube videos on that before you are looking at stats or if you have a friend that can help you out.

Because you build requires that you are constant fast with using your abilities on gcd and you really need to bind your abilities as a Demon hunter.

Dh is the most fast-paced class I ever played

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Continuing the discussion from 468 DH low dps:

Thank you for the reply. Yes i used to play back in the day but I wasn’t a good player just leveling, right now i play more serious . Im not clicking i have almost all of them key biding. I dont have any macros though, i have no idea if i have to do any

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Thank you lisc for the reply. I will have a look as well

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Before i start this post a short disclaimer. I am/was in the same boat as you. 469 on my DH and not doing enough dps. Its getting better but its still a work in progress. Whent on quite a few bosses from 30-40% till 70+% on warcraftlogs in a matter of 2 weeks. Simply by studying the stuff i mentioned earlier.

There are a few easy and a few harder fixes for you:

First thing i notice is that you have pretty low simmed DPS. 58k according to askmrrobot. To give you a comparison; my DH sits at 80k.

You major issue is lack of corruptions. 8.3 is all about min maxing corruptions. While replacing that 475 weapon with your 445 one with corruption is allready a good step in the right direction. You really need to upgrade your cloak and start running 4-5 mask Visions. Visions give guaranteed Corruption gear + At r15 cloack, you will get 3% extra corruption resist every week (if you clear nzoth and or a full masked Vision run).

To compare, youre at 52 resist while im at 78. Thats basicly 1 lash of the void or 2 x gushing wound “for free”.

Keep in mind that per boss different corruptions shine. Its very crucial that you study warcraftlogs for that. Check rankings, heroic and purely for DH.

Easy fix: go to askmrrobot, sim and adjust your azerite traits Replacing the Heart of Darkness traits is allready a 3k single target gain.

Easy fix: Upgrade your essences to rank 3.

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Rank 11(or 12) cloak gives you a massive agility proc and I mean massive!

Make sure you are not capping fury. This is massive. Its a huge dps loss. Get a fury bar weakaura to track it, mine turns red when its too high.

Try and get azerite with 3x furious gaze and one eyes of rage. This is what the meta is built around.

Make sure your running the right talents for the fight, check warcraftlogs. Demonic appietite has great synergy with the azerite traits above.

Make sure you have good essences. Again check warcraftlogs to see what people are running. Breath of the dying minor is worth over 5k by itself.

As for corruption and secondaries (crit/vers btw), they are important but the rng of corruption has made it so its not targetable. You just have to gather as much loot as you can and upload to raidbots to see whats what. Haste% is the best all rounder, IS for pure ST and twilight dev for aoe.

There are thing you can target, ra’den’s fists, raid trinkets and rings but even ring stats can be meaningless with corruption.

Get in visions to gear up your cape and get a pool of corrupted gear, havoc is great at them but you can get friends to help too. Just do the quest objectives till your confident enough to do masks but mask is where you’ll get the good gear.

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A few things I can say are:

Your talents are wrong, you don’t have Eyes of Rage trait either. Switch out Demonic Appetite for Blind Fury, forget that Dark Slash exists, also Cycle of Hatred doesn’t exist, the only talent that exists on the level 106 row is First Blood.

Change to those talents immediately, and switch Blind Fury to Demonic Appetite as soon as you acquire 1 Eyes of Rage trait.

Void-Twisted trinket is worst in slot trinket probably, switch it out asap.

Go to one of the training dummies in the Fel Hamer, the one that has about 50mil HP, is alone and doesn’t hit back. Without using potions and just using your cooldowns, train on your rotation with a 5 minute timer in between training. Once you reach between 45k to 49k DPS by the end of the timer your rotation is solid.

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vjvAP8fFp6nY9a8MuJgy1W This is your simulated training dummy DPS.

Switch out your essences immediately, for raids you will want to use Condensed Life Force, Crucible of Flame, Breath of The Dying and Memory of Lucid Dreams, all of them rank 3.

For raid fights with lots of AoE such as Hivemind and for m+ you will want to use Essence of The Focusing Iris, Crucible of Flame, Breath of The Dying and Purification Protocol, all rank 3.

Reaching within 5k DPS of your simulated DPS means you have perfected your in accordance to the maximum capacity of your character’s simulated DPS. Remember that reaching sim DPS exactly is rare as even with perfect robotic play this is not actually possible as you’re shown an average of your DPS, not the lowest simulation and not the highest, but the average out of 22,949 simulations.

Sincerely a DH that can effectively reach simulated DPS within raiding scenarios where this is applicable.

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Bis essences change a lot based on your gear. Blood of the enemy is better for me in dungeons for example. Sim or check warcraft logs to be sure.

Also worldvien seems to be getting stronger with neck level and worth keeping an eye on. With 2 allies it usually makes a minor spot.

Formless void is another one many top players use but it doesn’t sim well.

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There’s a lot of things you are doing wrong obviously, you can use wowanayzer to check your raid logs. Just checked your latest Maut kill and it seems you need more practice with DH rotation:

wowanalyzer,com/report/42TNfhQFvRGCacAy/8-Heroic+Maut±+Kill+(3:25)/Traulos/standard

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how ? how world cen you be low dps dh thet i lvl wtf u doing wrong like 123 123 123 whit immiltion ever now then dont forget eye beam

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At neck level 90 worldvein is still bad for me.

Blood of the enemy is niche, requires perfect preparation and the entire team pulling around it’s CD exactly, together with other niche CDs. Furthermore it’s only really finding good use in 24-25s, which OP is not doing. Iris is simply better for him.

Never use formless void as a dps.

@Trapeye please refrain from posting in the Demon hunters forum section. Ever again.

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The difference between doing bad versus decent dps is:

  • Furious Gaze x3
  • Infinite Stars corruption for Single Target fights
  • Twilight Devastation for AoE fights
  • Fist weapons: Unguent Caress or Bile-Stained Crawg Tusks
  • Condensed Life-Force (rank 3 major)
  • Breath of the Dying (rank 3 minor)

The value of Haste as a secondary stat drops a bit thanks to the Haste you get from Furious Gaze, but it is generally a good stat. Otherwise focus on crit and versatility.

The increased Haste seems to have good synergy with proccing corruption effects like Lash of the Void and Infinite Stars.

One of the best trinkets still is Ashvane’s Razor Coral. This will allow you to get 100% crit chance for a period of the fight.

To sum up, DH is VERY DEPENDENT on special effects and powers. This is sad, but without these things you are going to do bad dps no matter what.
Even with this, the damage is average and for example Lock, Mage, Warrior, or Hunter will outperform you.

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