Because of WoW Classic and all its modes like SoD, Hardcore, Anniversary, Cata Classic, and other experiments, Retail is starting to feel more and more like a lobby simulator. In endgame, playing the most popular role DPS, 60% of your time spent is on… just waiting.
Waiting in queue for solo shuffle.
Waiting in queue for solo blitz
Waiting in queue for random BGs.
Waiting in LFR, waiting for M+, waiting in group finders for any kind of content.
And it’s not just few minutes. It’s often from 15 to 30 minutes of doing circles in Dornogal waiting for que pop. And when it finally does, you get twenty minutes of gameplay… then back to waiting again.
Retail right now is a game where you do everything except play the game. And it’s all because of the fragmented playerbase. Every version of Classic is vacuuming people out of Retail. Blizzard is shooting themselves in the foot, and we’re all just sitting in this mess pretending it’s fine.
Suppose it makes sense that someone who buys their way through content is upset they have to wait in a queue when they’re actually playing themselves for once
Not much Blizzard can do it about it at this point though.
RBlitz were fine before they introduced no same spec matchmaking and queues tripled since then. I could not play enough of this when queues were 3 minutes long. Praised the mode to heavens. Having to wait 15 min for a game to play now is ridiculous and a sadly hard pass.
You are not entirely wrong but that’s not the problem.
The opposite is more or less the case. You have a billion people in queue for M+, you just can’t play with all of them. And there are many, many reasons for that. Classic versions of WoW is not one of them.
idk if its classics fault and blizzard just feeding people nostalgia but i confirm all the content being just waiting simulator whatever you do
feels like new season started few weeks ago and people already completed their goals and gone from game
In an ideal world we’d be 20% tanks, 20% healers and 60% dps. It seems we are closer to 15% / 15% / 70%, which causes the long queues for the dps players. Whether classic versions of the game, or even entirely different non-Blizzard games, siphon players out of Retail is of no relevance. Even if the Retail population was 10x as much as it is now, you’d still wait in queue because you’d have 10x more dps in queue before you.
The solution needs to be found somewhere else, and many times we have suggested our own ideas on how to solve that.
Anyways, I am always doing something while waiting for the queue to pop… non issue to me. And it is most definitely not 15-30 minute queues during the day. Not sure of PvP though as I don’t do it.
I really doubt that we have even 15/15/70 atleast not in the content majority plays which is LFR/LFD level content to me it seems its far worse when it comes to tanks and healers and rightfully so as those jobs are just thankless roles that really spark no interest on majority of playerbase as games are supposed to be fun and being some nameless faceless maniacs personal human toilet on the internet is not my idea of fun time.
This is exactly why I can’t play DPS. The wait times are straight up insane. There’s NO tanks or healers showing up. The dungeon finder is completely broken. It’s literally madness.
Millions of players but not one tank or one healer for 15-30 min?
It’s broken. Needs to be looked at.
At first I thought ok maybe just have to wait some…
But now it’s too obvious there is something wrong with the system.
I’m going to write a bug report right now. I’m tired of it.
And it’s been like this forever now,. even in s1. Shame on blizzard.
Yeah thats true and should be highlighted more. Rated blitz were fine as random ranked pug mode when the ques were 1-3min. Then I guess for some reason they had to add soft algorithms on the matchmaking for specs, same that is ruining shuffles that is trying prevent same specs from same game. Which makes no sense nor make it more fair or realistical, just increases the que times immensively.
It also makes fotm rerolling more beneficial as then the one queing some spec will most likely be only one of that spec and he wont have to play against mirrors which is not realistical cause in any other rated modes people have to face mirrors all the time. Only in these soloqs they are trying to prevent same specs in the game which only increases the que time and doesnt really do anything beneficial.
They should just get rid of it and let only mmr be only factor in matchmaking and que time would drop drastically from the current.
The games are still pugs doing uncoordinated random stuff and it doesnt matter if there is same specs or not, only increases que times if put soft algorythm trying prevent same specs. “soft” because some cases it lets same specs in anyway after certain amount of time it will bend its set parameters just like for mmr. Just get rid of the whole algo and let ques only be about peoples matchmaking rating (mmr) and nothing else.
You can’t lvl dps in dungeons. 9 min queue.
You can’t make a key if you dont have rating and ilvl already established. no tanks or healers.
LFR 15-20 min queue as DPS.
Sometimes 10 minuter as tank/healer.
Premade raids booted immeditaley. you dont have gear or aotc.
Can’t make delves without waiting for tanks/healers…10-15 minutes.
Yepp! Happens to me all the damn time. That’s not natural. Something is bugged as hell in the system.
The weird thing is if you leave the queue and re sign, the bonus is gone but the queue is shorter. Like wtf is even going on? I’ve experienced this literally tons of times lately.
Another reason to favor solo delves. No queue. No one whining because you don’t want to spend thousands of gold on unnecessary consumables. Just immediately rushing into and through an 11 without waiting for other people to make it possible to play the game whenever you’ve actually got time. And you’ll get all the important mogs from that content, so why bother with anything else? Well, the weekly cap is annoying, but we’ve got that everywhere.
didnt even do anything just today when i played a couple of rounds two rsham got into the same team and the round before one team had 2 ret paly +2fury warrior and other team 0 of both.
this mode was the best thing in a long time when queues were 3minutes
