You have to re-acquire the gear which is really painful because the drop rate is low and loot tables are very bloated
There are significant restrictions by achievements, eg you need all +10 in time to upgrade to 213, but the vault gives 220 for a single +10 dungeon, not even in time.
We don’t know how much valor we get per dungeon but we do know how much per calling - and the number is EXTREMELY small. 35 for rare, 50 for epic calling. This is about 1/10th of what you need to upgrade a single gear piece by 3 or 4 item levels. That’s right, you need about 2 weeks worth of callings for a single weapon upgrade (1000 vp). I can only assume that keys will drop low amounts, to the point of this being redundant as it would require dozens of dungeon runs.
People that timed all +15’s already have 220+ item level equipped. This system will help them in upgrading that one or two slots still stuck with 207, 213 or whatever. This is the same for +10s (213 ilvl). Perhaps casual players benefit, as timing +5s enables 207 ilvl upgrade (and +5 is very casual level).
This is modern wow. We get obtuse and grindy systems instead of simple ones like in the past. Valor upgrades in MOP and WOD were very simplistic, yet efficient. A minipatch dropped mid-way through a long tier and permitted ALL current patch gear in the game to be upgraded by +4 ilvl twice, at a cost of some valor. No restrictions of any kind, and the weekly cap was easily farmable. This little buff provided players that extra power to push through content faster. This never was implemented in the beginning of a patch, only later - to allow players from outside top 200 world to complete that content.
I’m currently about 1100 rio, 217 ilvl, got one ilvl 207 chest and two ilvl 200 trinkets… that’s it, the rest is 216 and above. I’m a long way away from keystone master, I get very little possibilities with this new system. Two items i can upgrade by a bit… if i get lucky with drops. And that’s a very generous if. Chances are, ill just get what i need (way above what Valor offers) from the Vault or mythic raid bosses. Moot system that solves very little.
Maybe for alters it will be useful? I guess? If the restriction by achievement is account wide. Should be account wide. I would be absolutely shocked if it is not but you never know, its blizzard xD
insta liked. yeah, valor is only for alts and new players. without titanforge weekly vault is so op. i am full 226 and never killed any myhtic boss. no valor system can solve this. people who play since start of shadowlands there’s no new loot anymore.
i was saying before add +20 dungeon and 233 weps for this but not a good idea really only award for killing mythic sire is weapons.
I feel it’s more of testing patch for valor points to see if it works and will be useful on your main when 9.1 hits. Other then that will work nicely for my alt shammy to gear it up a bit.
no, they havent.
the only difference is getting that second item drop if you don’t time the key.
Up until now untimed key drops 1 item, it will drop 2 starting from tomorrow
Untimed keys will award that second item with decreased ilvl tho.
The whole of Shadowlands is a “test” Blizz are literally making this s**t up as they go and yet their still behind on what little was actually rdy at Release, which is far less than what was promised during the pre release sales hypes
I timed all +15s. I still have 1 neck slot, 1 trinket slot and 2 ring slots than could use upgrade to 220.
Most players who do M+ exclusively (like myself) would be in the same situation like me, unless they are very lucky with their great vault.
For a Mythic+ player to fill ALL slots with 226 gear, they need to also do ranked PVP at 2100 rating, do Mythic raiding or be extremely lucky with vault rewards.
Wait and see don’t jump to conclusions. Callings giving low Valor points is a good
thing. I just hope dungeons give more, and that they give more for higher levels (so a +2 should give more than callings, and a +15 should give a lot more, etc).
Agree with you here 100%. This is the WORST part. Today I got a necklace which is 3 ilvl higher than my previous necklace, had better stats, leech and a socket. Normally, I would be very happy for such a drop. But my first thought when I got it was I won’t be able to upgrade it and I have to farm it again.
I would honestly not try to do any serious gearing until the last patch’s raid comes out because all the previous effort will be obsoleted by catchup gear.
I don’t think anyone should feel excited about the current implementation of valor upgrade. Remember you might have to do around 8 M+ (135 vp per run) or 30 callings (35 normal, 50 epic) to be able to upgrade once for the item like weapon. Of course, you have to refarm gears first until they drop
If you have a look at some PTR test, it barely increased +1 agility for some demoed item in the post.
To upgrade an weapon from 200 to 220, you will need to do around 60 M+ runs or 220 callings to get enough valor. If you happen to get the same item but slightly higher level, you basically wasted the valor point for the same item
How much can you stomach as a hamster before burning yourself out? Then when 9.1 hits, all these efforts just be wasted.
But dont rush to upgrade your gear …you might get a higher level piece from your weekly Great Vault next week. LMAO, What a great new “addition” Blizz GG
