Cancelled my sub as feedback.
Well duh valor unlocked is per character, that wasn’t what I was saying, I wanna know if the ilvl cap of 220 unlocked with KSM is account wide or not, there hasn’t been a single official statement about that.
I’m very much not an average player lol, I’m already gearing my 4th 60 and got a few characters between 50 and 58 to level up.
WoW players really do have Stockholm syndrome.
Blizzard introduced some terrible change, people rage, blizzard tones it down (but it’s still a minus) and people call it “good compromise”.
Compromise to what?
That is like calling a “good compromise” between getting kicked in the nuts and getting kicked in the nuts with a slap in the face.
protip: both are bad and only full revert of revert is acceptable.
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a lot of words
in actuality nothing changed for better
people praise it while there is nothing to praise it for
Typical Blizzard. Typical WoW players.
No it really isn’t. That’s just the thing, if you time your key EVERY week we won’t punish you. If you dont, though, if you DARE to go on vacation, then we will f… you up royally - just because we can, and we expect you to LOVE IT!
Think of it also in this way. In this new system you’ll have to constantly factor in if the group can time the key. If it can’t you’ll be even more incentivised to quit the group and invest that time into a new key. So again, the brave key holder who offered the key gets punished - not just once, but twice!
And thats a very good systen. Vault was already superior to trash system TF was and now its perfect for me. You can make one +15 cause lqck of time or will to do this and you will still get 15 next week. Nice.
It won’t be account wide. Why would it? It isn’t the case in PvP after all.
You timing all 15s in one char does not mean you should get 220 access on an alt in the same way me picking a fotm class for 2s and getting glad does not mean my fresh ding war can get 226 pieces by casually farming RBGs in the lowest bracket.
If you want high gear on a char, the char themself must do the content. This has always been the case except for catch up gear. Anyone who believes otherwise is being naive in my opinion. I get KSM is a big Achi and all, but in no way should it give you a ticket for geared Alts for the patch through just grinding minimal currency because this is not the case in any other gearing system.
Not to mention it will kill key climbing if everyone who has KSM no longer has a reason to climb keys on Alts. They’ll just do GV key and then farm VP in ezmode 2s if they don’t need to earn the Achi themselves which will depress amounts of keys being run for those still looking to earn KSM first time around.
Totally fair if it’s char specific in my eyes unless they implement similar alt friendly gearing paths for Alts in PvP and raiding.
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It’s the most asked question regarding Valor and so far all I’ve seen is speculation.
Yes it’s logical to presume that the account wide achievement will count for all as it’s a meta but we have not seen that confirmed by Blizz.
Icy veins simlarly speculated they expect it to work this way but we just don’t know.
Pretty much this
I’m slowly working my way to KSM doing one key per week so I very much approve this change.
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What people don’t realize is that blizzard is using a basic government strategy when increasing tax.
First announcement:
- We decided to increase income tax by 25% starting January.
- People are outraged and start revolting
Second announcement:
- We feel like 25% wasn’t fair to our beloved people so we’ve taken your feedback into consideration and decided to take it down to 10%
- The people rejoice and praise them
When all along their intention was to only increase tax by 10%.
The people are happy for being screwed, and the government got what it wanted 
I’ll just quote myself from another thread about this;
While the change might seem good i still think that 9.0 system was better and more player friendly.
So has this change never been implemented or has it been reverted? I’m pretty sure it worked for me this way last week (received a 15 after timing a 15 two weeks ago) but this week I received a 14 after timing 15s again last week.
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Hey Starudis,
It’s currently meant to be working as described in the original post, though we’re investigating a small number of reports where keys are incorrectly being downgraded.
If you do receive a key lower than what you completed in time during the week, please send a Bug Report with the details so we can check it out!
All this is nice, but why not go one step further to make the keystone just what determines the dungeon and let people select the difficulty up to what they have cleared on their character in that expansion?
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because that would be fun
and fun is not allowed in wow
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Just like in that part of this parody song
same bug :c
Received a 18 after timing 19s 
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