**A Guide to Revitalize World of Warcraft and Restore Its Success**

If you go to dataforazeroth.com and have a look, then Blizzard’s API produces a total of ~1 million accounts for Retail (that have been recently active) and if you look specifically for accounts with The War Within, then the number seems to be ~500.000.

That doesn’t include China and it doesn’t include Classic, because those are mystery numbers we don’t have access to, and the IGN article refers to the subscriber graph from a GDC presentation which is almost a year old, so it doesn’t really account for recent releases.

So right now you’re looking at a retail playerbase between 500.000 and 1 million, depending on where you look, so to speak.
I’d be surprised if China and Classic can add an order of magnitude more to that number, so…

Yea spotted that in the google search but chose to ignore that one as I suspected it was a bait website.

But I will take your word for it. Would explain why suddenly we have multiple languages in non organized instance content. They obv meshing everyone together to make the world feel " populated. "

That really triggered you? Just because I called out a ChatGPT post you are now trying to strawman me? run along and find a more worthy cause please

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What triggered me was your narcissistic need to post in a thread you had no interest in, for the sole purpose of condescendingly belittling the manner in which it was made in order to establish some superiority complex (because you seem to think that spotting chat GPT makes you special). In short, your contribution was to spam in a dismissive manner.

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With a name like Vegangodx and using chatgp , i can not take you serious. I wanted to but its the same ideas others have thrown up before hand and it will not help the game at all.

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What you are suggesting is giving away gear for free. Every good game lets you work for your stuff to give you a sense of accomplishment.

I stand by what I said: by removing all progression there is no reason to play. You cant keep everyone happy and deliver a decent experience.

Catering to the special snowflakes who expect everything handed to them makes for a poor business model.

Before China came back in August i think? the numbers combined for all WoW games was just about 6.5 so with China added again it would have been for a short while huge

so that would have pushed it to just under 9 million again.

https://www.ggrecon.com/guides/world-of-warcraft-player-count/

Oh higher then expected 7.7 before china came back so for retail to drop to 1 million 3 and half months after it came out is breathe taking.

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i mean why should i bother and put effort to read your bot commentary when you didnot even put in effort to express your own views instead of robots one?

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What? No. There’s no basis for saying that.

What we can say is that retail WoW outside of China has ~1 million recently active accounts, and ~500.000 recently active accounts in The War Within.

What you’re linking doesn’t really document the numbers you’re presenting. I mean, the Wowhead article says that there’s 2 million registrations. That’s a number, but it’s not people playing the game. That’s like saying the number of people who wish-list a game on Steam is the same as the number of people who play the game. And that’s obviously not true.

You can’t just google player numbers and then link random articles as if that’s somehow a gotcha!
That’s not how this works.

It was not meant as a gotcha stop looking for a fight jesus christ give it a break, you know you are not worth it you really are not i linked 2 sites saying an avg player number coming from blizzard and you refute it as i am trying to catch you out which i was not but you know what go do one.

You guys alright over here? No i am not patronizing… I am just asking. cause i have no where else to go.

Please take a hike and keep your wanting to stir things up to yourself thanks.

Why are you so offended I don’t like reading ChatGPT? are you it’s mommy?

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Oooookey :sweat_smile: Spicy forum replies today I see.

I beg your pardon? I just said that the numbers you were referring to are not documented and don’t describe people playing the game. Hence why I said we don’t have numbers for China, and you can’t just link some random articles and speculate that now we do. We don’t.

I’m not offended. I said I was triggered by your narcissistic posting, but I wouldn’t say it offended me so much as it annoyed me. Why? Well I answered that before, didn’t I? You added nothing to the topic of conversation and sought only to display your narcissism to all. And I guess that struck me as rather pathetic in an annoying manner.

whatever champ have a great night :slight_smile: Like wowhead is now “random” lol ok troll.

You too, Álaric.

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Idk why he does that… Sometimes Alaric is super cool and you can debate. Other times he just shuts the door in your face like this <.< it happens Jito

Better to just ignote, such snarky comments.

Sometimes people ignore that not everyone has the same level of proficcency in english (me included)

Plus the phone does not help, with the auto corrections :joy:

I’m going to approach this as if the OP was written by an actual person; even though the way it was written feels very much like ChatGPT.

I disagree. Most of the things you’re suggesting would make the game worse for me; not better.

You seem to only have been thinking of the old ‘big 3’ with your suggestions. What about world content? What about solo players? What about delves?

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