A new race, is this a joke?!

[Alfiriniel-silvermoon]

I love this:

@Ulfar-tarren-mill

The word Quel’dorei (Highborne in common) was originally a Darnassian term. It was used toward elites in the Kal’dorei Empire. The elves of the cities were regarded as more noble, while those who lived on the outskirts were considered lowborn

Quel’dorei actually means: “children of noble birth” in Darnassian. Which was often given to those who were gifted to wield the arcane magics.

@Ulfar-tarren-mill

Modern Thalassian elves are direct descendants of those Highborne, and the Blood Elves- who call themselves the Sin’dorei - are in truth High Elves. The decision of Silvermoon’s elves to rename themselves from Quel’dorei to Sin’dorei (Children of the Blood in common) was not a rejection of their heritage but a way to honor those who were slaughtered by Arthas and the Scourge. But it does not make them any less than what they were.

@Ulfar-tarren-mill

The so-called “exiled” elves chose to remain with the Alliance and kept the name Quel’dorei. To me, they are nothing, but traitors to their people. The Blood Elves, at the very least, had some sanity to remember and carry their fallen kin in their new name.

They did indeed not heritage, however only parts of it, as they went to go for new sources of magic, often addicting ones, like the fel. In addition to that, the remaining elves, who kept calling themselves High Elves, refused to draw the magic out of other things, be it living or inanimate. These got exiled by Lor’themar as he claimed he couldn’t rule a kingdom divided.

During the scourge invasion of Quel’thalas, 99% of the High Elves were wiped out. 99% of the remaining High Elves called themselves “Sin’Dorei”. The other 1% stayed to their convictions and believes and traditions. There is a small cultural divide between both groups as the High Elves are still “angry” with the poor treatment Lor’themar gave them, which was also in their hour of need. So to call them traitors is incorrect. Now knowing this piece of information, I’m sure you can’t call someone a traitor because they didn’t want to follow opressive rule, when the “didn’t need it”.

I can accept the Horde having “Blood Elves”, what lots of people can’t accept is the game Blizzard has been playing with it’s player base, which hails back 18 years ago by now. Which is the next:

Reasons why High Elves couldn’t be a playable race:

1. TBC-Cataclysm:
   The argument was always given that they couldn’t add High Elves because they were too simular to Blood Elves and would confuse players in PvP, because the obvious red health bar above the player’s name wasn’t obvious enough.

2. Mist of Pandaria
   With the introduction of Pandaren, their argument of races being simular once and for all flew out the window, their excuse then was that there weren’t enough remaining “pure” High Elves to make a playable race, back in that time, the lore was clear on it: There are mor High Elves than there are Gnomes.

3. Legion Retcon
   In Legion they threw in a retcon, actively reducing the remaining high elven numbers.

4. BFA pre-patch
   Queue “Ren’dorei” a recoloured version of blood elves, an even smaller amount than there are lorewise High Elves remaining.

The only reason I genuinely can come up with, why Activision Blizzard refuses to add High Elves to the game, be it a neutral or faction allied race, is purely for faction balancing. Data has shown that the majority of Horde Blood elven players would go Alliance if the combination would be an option. I feel like getting Void Elf paladins will also keep waiting on them, eventhough there is a void elf npc paladin already in game.

My anger stems from all the excuses Activision Blizzard did through out the years, it leaves a vile taste and they at best only give half of what is requested. I don’t understand what they gain from it, but it has infuriated plenty of players of they years. Because lorewise and game mechanic wise they always, actively, shoot themselves in the foot when it suits them.

5. Midnight

Midnight would make the most sense to introduce High Elves as they have a stake in defending the Sunwell, even when exiled from Quel’thalas. In addition to that, opening the path to more Paladin/race combos, together with priest also makes sense for the Light aspect fantasy of those classes.

I hope me breaking this down for you makes you re-evaluate your original post and “not lore supported” opinion.

[Alfiriniel-silvermoon]

All void elves and blood elves are High Elves, but not all High Elves are Blood Elves or Void Elves

[Alfiriniel-silvermoon]

1. Stealing and smuggling the Divine Bell from Darnassus to Orgrimmar through Dalaran, which caused Jaina to go on a justified purge of the Horde from Dalaran.
2. Actively draining the magic from living beings and enemies from them, causing them to die.
3. The slaughter of Draenei and the wars they caused in Outlands (under Kael’thas).
4. The exile from the remaining High Elves from their kingdom.
5. Their attempt to summon Kil’jeaden and the Legion into Azeroth.
6. Enslaving Kalecgos and needing adventures to go in and save him.
7. Enslaving (leper) gnomes.

I mean, to only name a few of the crimes they have commited

[Ангеланика-gordunni]

@Alfiriniel-silvermoon

As they haven’t forgotten or forgiven the orcs and trolls for what they did to their kin.

Alfiriniel, you are amazing

Thank you for your explanations, but I think that these barbarians who attack the High Elves and try to appear intelligent are unlikely to understand anything…

[Hiawathá-outland]

Pure irony statement, considering who your damn racial ancestors are.

[Thuzar-argent-dawn (Thuzar)]

@Alfiriniel-silvermoon

Blood Elves and Draenei are present in vanilla, prior to TBC,

Not the Draenei as we know them, they did exist as the lost ones however which resembles the form the broken had in warcraft 3 but was retconned to be an even further degraded draenei from the already degraded broken form.
The playable Draenei as we know them today did not exist until TBC, the only “draenei” we could have met before TBC would either be lost ones or eredar.

@Alfiriniel-silvermoon

During the scourge invasion of Quel’thalas, 99% of the High Elves were wiped out. 99%

Its 90% not 99%
90% of the populaton died, from that group 90% changed their name to blood elf and from that group 15% followed keal’thas to outland.

@Alfiriniel-silvermoon

TBC-Cataclysm:
The argument was always given that they couldn’t add High Elves because they were too simular to Blood Elves and would confuse players in PvP, because the obvious red health bar above the player’s name wasn’t obvious enough.

Considering how confused pvpers is the reason we don’t have the observer demon pet as warlocks anymore, outside of a pvp talenet to temporarly summon one, this tracks for poor reasoning on their behalf

@Alfiriniel-silvermoon

My anger stems from all the excuses Activision Blizzard did through out the years, it leaves a vile taste and they at best only give half of what is requested. I don’t understand what they gain from it, but it has infuriated plenty of players of they years. Because lorewise and game mechanic wise they always, actively, shoot themselves in the foot when it suits them.

Their reasons could have been fair when they were said, but as Garrosh taught us in the WoD intro cinematic
“Times change”
Maybe we’ll see high elves one day, but I suspect the skin color is the best we are gonna get, or they have to somehow justify a complete no-brainer copy past to the alliance as a patch feature or expansion feature not just to the RPers whom I assume a lot of high elf truthers are, but also the pvp and pve playerbase and to be fair, I don’t see a lot of them caring a whole lot outside of what racials are better for their respective gameplay.

Also Blizzard has been whishy washy with the allied races, and haven’t actually added any of the already existing ones, beside maybe the dark iron.

because Ogres and hozen are allied to the horde but lack a playable option.
And furbolgs, jinuy and broken are also members of the alliance or at least allied to members who are in the alliance.
We even have two flavours of jinuy if you wanna get into details about it.

@Alfiriniel-silvermoon

Stealing and smuggling the Divine Bell from Darnassus to Orgrimmar through Dalaran, which caused Jaina to go on a justified purge of the Horde from Dalaran.

Bare in mind Jaina may have actually given the horde justified cause by aiding the alliance first in spite of her neutral stance during that time, unless she wasn’t aware the horde and alliance were both fighting over control of the bell, which I doubt she wasn’t aware of.
The following purge, where a large part of the murder was lead by the silver covenant however, should be considered a warcrime.
as the silver covenant not only asked you to kill sin’dorei but also steal their property and cut off the escape from any and all who wanted to flee.

@Alfiriniel-silvermoon

Actively draining the magic from living beings and enemies from them, causing them to die.

The alternative was to become wretched, not a pleasent alternative. also not a crime I am pretty sure.

@Alfiriniel-silvermoon

The slaughter of Draenei and the wars they caused in Outlands (under Kael’thas).

In that case the silver covenant is also a terrorist group and all quel’dorei are accomplishes covenant or not.

@Alfiriniel-silvermoon

Enslaving (leper) gnomes.

The forsaken are also enslaving leper gnomes, it seems to be a thing they do up in the old north of the easten kingdoms.
And again not a crime unless slavery is outlawed and it isn’t in the horde.

[Axran-ravencrest]

i think i speak for most people here

we would like

• High Elves ( horde )
• Ogres ( horde )
• Jinyu ( alliance )
• Light undead ( Alliance )
• Kalu’ak ( alliance and horde )

[Ulfar-tarren-mill]

@Alfiriniel-silvermoon

Which was often given to those who were gifted to wield the arcane magics.

Please, do not spread misinformation. The Highborne were literally from noble or high-status families, and they did not necessarily need to wield arcane magic to be considered one.

Take Illidan, for instance. In the lore, he wielded arcane magic even better than the Highborne Arcanists, but was he considered a Highborne?

No.

While many Highborne were adept in arcane magic, it wasn’t a requirement to be considered Highborne. The status was more about noble lineage and favor with Queen Azshara than magical prowess.

Being called a Highborne essentially meant being a “city elf”, belonging to the noble class, not simply being a powerful spellcaster.

To give a real-world analogy: the Cypriot Greeks, for example, referred to mainland Greeks as the “Kalamari,” meaning “educated person,” while the Cypriots themselves saw themselves as villagers.

The same distinction existed in the Kaldorei Empire: the city elves were regarded as superior to those from the villages. Being part of the city elite often meant access to education, arcane training, and political influence, while village elves were considered commoners, regardless of their magical potential.

The caste hierarchy in the game draws inspiration from similar real-world distinctions.

@Alfiriniel-silvermoon

During the scourge invasion of Quel’thalas, 99% of the High Elves were wiped out. 99% of the remaining High Elves called themselves “Sin’Dorei”.

About 90% of them, yes, the initiative to rename themselves came from Kael’thalas. A small portion of elves refused to obey his command and chose to retain the title of High elves, and keep alliance with the Alliance.

Lor’themar exiled them for this. And yes, they can rightly be considered traitors. Remember that 90% of your kin fell defending their homeland, have some perspective and honor the sacrifices that were made.

@Alfiriniel-silvermoon

Actively draining the magic from living beings and enemies from them, causing them to die.

The Highborne of the house Shen’dralar literally drew power from a demon. Does that make them any less Highborne? Not at all. One could argue it was a matter of survival instinct rather than a reflection of their noble status. Being Highborne was about lineage and social standing, not moral choices or sources of power.

[Thuzar-argent-dawn (Thuzar)]

I love bait.

[Donjtru-argent-dawn]

People crying over High Elves for so long, and me with a happy smiling face seeing them not added yet… Let’s go !

[Warlóór-steamwheedle-cartel]

I would imagine they’re coming in a future patch of midnight. Tho why theyre waiting i have no clue. Want to sell millions of copies? Appease the hyenas waiting for high elfs😂

[Pumpkin-aggramar]

@Ангеланика-gordunni

that nobody ever asked for

I asked for it. And so did many others.

Stop talking in absolutes as if your opinion is some kinda gospel.

Also asking for another elf race is crazy. if you want to be a highelf, play a void elf and make your hair blonde. Easy.

[Judgment-gehennas]

People always say this and then the race ends up at 0.1% population like Earthern. Nobody is going to play them.

[Eadhric-argent-dawn]

You are genuinely delusional if you think High Elves (beautiful white elves) won’t be way more popular than stone dwarves.

[Judgment-gehennas]

Nice reading comprehension. Read it again.

[Eadhric-argent-dawn]

You are the one with reading comprehension considering how you just said only 0.1% of players will play High Elf like Earthen.

[Judgment-gehennas]

Thanks for proving my point.
I said that because the poster above said “I ASKED FOR IT AKSHULLY”.

[Eadhric-argent-dawn]

You didn’t quote him so your reality is invalidated.

But it’s good to know you came to understand High Elves are indeed the most requested race in the game.

[Ангеланика-gordunni]

@Donjtru-argent-dawn

a happy smiling face seeing them not added yet…

@Warlóór-steamwheedle-cartel

Appease the hyenas

And then you guys say that players who wait for High Elves are arrogant and hysterical.

The haters of the High Elves are the most disgusting people on this forum, and you prove it every day when you write your disgusting comments over and over again.

[Warlóór-steamwheedle-cartel]

Dont actually hate the idea of high elves. Would prob play them. Just joking cos of how often these threads coming up and how often they go. I dont understand why blizzard isnt adding them ij midnight