A profile website for the Waterlords!


Yes, you can, but they chose to give people who wanted to use it a bit of IC flair they could use. Nobody used the Argent Archives IC despite this, but took publications like the Argent Post as IC, which were a collection of Argent Archives content that were greenlit as acceptable to be news IC.


And I am giving the feedback that it actually annoys me that the profile page is linked to any ic entity. And since it isn’t necessary to create that link, to provide the utility they want to provide, it does seem like criticism that is generally compatible with their goals.

I don’t care in any way about what AD does. This isn’t AD. This is a new page. And I am saying that I would greatly prefer if any general ic connection would be left out, and just be made specific for the sections that are supposed to have one. Like I said before, this is just my opinion, and I can only speak for myself. And no one is obligated to act upon it. So please just take this as the constructive criticism that it is meant to be (yes, I do think the project would be better that way), instead of a personal attack.

I am aware that it probably has no effect on the reality of its usage.
I am aware that it worked for AD.
I am aware (now) that there were genuine ic projects behind the idea.
I don’t plan on boycotting the Archive, if my wishes aren’t followed.
I am actually not just stupid.

You can really stop trying to persuade me that my feelings about the matter are wrong.


Ok… :face_with_raised_eyebrow:


I’m not trying to convince you that your feelings are wrong, I’m just presenting you with my personal take as someone who has been part of that community and been using the platform(s).

I personally like the vaguely in-universe approach because I think it gives it a charm and personality that a simple wiki never manages to do, but all I was trying was to alleviate worries and clarify some things in your posts, that’s all.


You’re welcome to your opinion. I personally hate any unnecessary mixing of ic and ooc, and I do think it is totally possible to have an ic-flair to your posts without creating it. You can even have an Argent Archive doing exactly what it does, without making the site the Argent Archives.


Personally I always saw the IC element of the Archives as an extra tool you could use. Just like you could say your entry was a notice on the wall of the inn, or a newspaper sold for 15c, you could also state that it was available in the Archives which made more sense IC for some things. Just a nice way for some people to get more personal writing into the world.

Options are great in my opinion. If someone doesn’t want to use that option, that is great but I see no reason to remove it.


(sorry I was rambling on and felt my post pretty much said exactly the same thing as some others :see_no_evil:)


People have the option to post IC things on noticeboards and the like even on an OOC profile website. You could even create some archive for IC use without basing the whole site around it. I do not see why Hydraxian Waterlords needs to go about it the same way as Argent Dawn did. Hydraxian Archives does not work as an IC organisation as mentioned already (they’re water elementals), and connecting it to the Kirin Tor just seems forced.


Unless we headcanon the Hydraxian Waterlords as some sort of omniscient organisation that’s keeping track of everyone, I think forcing in an in-character organisation to a platform that is predominantly an OOC resource, muddies the water(lords) more than it really helps.

If people wanted to have an in-character section of the website (potentially just the ability to categorize/tag certain articles as part of a specific in-character archive?) I don’t see the harm in that either and I can see how that might enhance someone’s roleplay. But if the base assumption is never that the website is in-character, I don’t think it needs to have one single organisation attached to it.


Would be glad for an archive! Perhaps we can introduce the guild map glaive star made on AD into the same website? Allows you to see where folks are roleplaying.


You know what mister orc! You and your buddies just make exactly the site you want!
Argent Archives is awesome if thats what you’re aiming to do dont change a thing!
Remember were the old folks that does’nt like changes. :smiley:


I’m not one of the developers myself. :sweat_smile:


I only wish. It’s from 2007 :sob:
(Though the OS and system software are patched up to the latest available security patches, and the software modified to run on those.)


Anymore news on the site? :slight_smile:

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We shall see, I suppose.


This sounds awesome! Looking forward to this!