I wish to see a congregation of Goblin Televangelists.
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Some of these replies are absolutely thrillingly appalling. This community really for the last ten years or so has been nothing but a loose affiliation of separate friend circles. Thereâs really no community effort at all aside from little social bubbles competing (or occasionally co-operating aka showing off in front of each other) for popularity prizes. The absolute stinking entitled attitude that roleplayers exhibit shown time and again by the way they treat each other, lord themselves around in the face of âbad rpâ and âpoor qualityâ and perpetuate their 4chan-tier superiority complex memes as if they are actually funny is the reason more and more roleplayers and more and more guilds are just leaving these days.
The game content has been dry for months and this expansion has been a massive disappointment. The community if it ever was one is being continually watered down by new cliques picking up and amplifying the disgusting attitudes of their predecessors. New systems (new forum, warmode, sharding, server downgrades) are banging more and more nails into the coffin as we speak and now even our interaction on here is being moderated by a computer instead of a real person.
Weâre a forgotten scion of an ancient game, a tiny corrosive fraction of an impudent playerbase and weâve deserved every drop of that reputation. Collectively we are poor and miserable excuses for human beings; the very epitome of what it means to be a keyboard warrior. At this point in time, to me, this realm is honestly nothing more than an echo chamber for mutually-enabling bullies and I personally am extremely glad to see the back of it.
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I have to agree with Matheson to a certain extent.
The community isnât a community but a community of communities. Some donât interact with others and others arenât even aware some other group exist. I donât think thatâs necessarily a bad thing.
I also believe the vast majority of drama that passed through the forums and in-game to mostly be a storm in a tea-cup (noncery aside) from attempts to dismantle/tarnish guilds or people holding grudges for years itâs all a bit⌠playground. From abuse of forum systems to silence people who the person behind the screen dislikes to attempted to degrade their efforts at hosting a campaign.
The roleplay community is itâs own worst enemy. People need to open a window and realise that once the servers are shut down, no one is genuinely going to give a flying ![:poop:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/poop.png?v=6" ":poop:")
about what they once did on a pulpy western high fantasy game.
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And where do you draw the line? These two points are entirely controversial.
What would these âbrave fewâ stand up for? A totalitarian regime over AD that enforces cooperation and good sportsmanship? Iâm ok with that. I think that if you act like a 
you should get treated like one. But thatâs a fallacy in and of itself; it comes at the expense of someone.
Removing, disbanding, and ignoring shouldnât be an answer to anything, and the below is entirely true:
I once found that certain aspects that are common-place were simply unfun for me; no one seemed to pursue the same ideas I did in the guild scene. So with my group of friends we created Heavensreachâa community where we ran our RP for a long, long time. Only 3, of the like, 20, people are still playing now (BFA amirite) but I continue to involve others.
What happens when others call this âisolationist behaviourâ or, better formatted, âbubble rpâ? Well theyâre inherently wrong (lol), because nearly every person was in at least 1 different guild leading stories and projects of their ownâby far the furthest definition of a âbubbleâ Iâve ever required mental gymnastics to comprehend. But weâre still âaâ community, among others.
Iâve long since preached to others that the idea of âtheâ community is a long-since romanticised lie, and trying to appease âtheâ community is what ultimately leads to self-destruction. There has never been one. Thereâs been vocally loud groups that agreed with other vocally loud groups, and when they disbanded because third vocally loud groups became louder, we were left with a gap. Repeat. But speaking up is not the problem.
So Iâll disagree to a degree, Matheson & Aerilen. The state of the community is not simply the fact that people speak or consider others as worseâbecause saying that is a looped hypocrisy. You simply cannot blame others in such a general manner without also blaming yourself. And if you do, then I still do not think that itâs the problem.
Itâs the fact that people can no longer tolerate disagreements or opposing views; if you are wrong, you must quitâthus, you cannot be wrong, ever. On the other hand, youâve got people who simply do not know when to stop when they are ârightâ. Disagreements expand further away from RP and into personal problems. Iâve also spoken for a long time about how certain behaviours are simply unacceptableâtake the Drums of War as an example. Certain people who I called out thought it fitting to sit and make fun of others. That was bullying, yeah.
You know what was the worst part about it?
Those who neither took part in the bullying, or the opposition towards the bullying. Staying quiet is not how you make things better, and Iâve been guilty of turning a blind eye on things I thought didnât, or shouldnât, affect me. Thatâs not stayed that way since I realised. We can play the pedantry game and point out that âmy view might be different from your viewâ, but thereâs basic human decencyâand the lack thereof would make me worried about the kind of people that play WoW & walk the streets IRL. Harassment is never ok.
A genuine desire to simply make a fun environment without care for personal benefit is something so rare that this mass paranoia of âeveryone is out to get youâ has become commonplace.
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Iâve cracked it, guys.
After a long meditative state, I have figured out the secret to making Argent Dawn.
-Perfect-.
Yes, perfect.
I can already hear you non-believers but hear me out all yeâ unfaithful.
Here it goes.
donât rp a child and donât erp.
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More non-military rp. like merchants and craftsmen/women would really help i think. Plus more not rp-pvp campaigns.
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Firstly, I think itâs important to point out the distinction between what we want to do and what is achievable. Is it truly achievable to stomp out ERP and child RP? Sadly the answer is no since theyâre like weed in the guarden; they always come back.
What is achievable is our disposition and overall attitude to each other. To be more willing to share experiences rather than limiting them. Sure itâs a shame to see an increase to obnoxious behaviour but at the end of the day, what we can truly change are ourselves and hope that people realize that theyâre just being silly.
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It can be summed up shortly; be the change you want to see.
Itâs alright to talk about it, but if you want to see more things that create for an engaging, productive and creative community. Itâs always nice to see something up for everyone to go too on occasion.
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How did this topic even get on to child rp? I understand mentioning ERP with the big S*** storm there is about it right now.
Because itâs in the same category of things that should not be.
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Yeah no. ERP is a whole different thing to child rp. ERP is wrong and breaks the rules if done in open channels, while child rp is just not some peoples cup of tea.
Child RP should be banned too if you ask me. Itâs on Silithus levels of ânothing good has ever come out of itâ.
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We have roughly one every 3-4 months? Oddly it has increased from what it use to be.
These guilds are popular and shall remain so.
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On what grounds? Your dislike of it? I have never yet got a solid well written explanation of why child rp is bad. But anyway back on topic.
Sorry let me rephrase. More events like markets and fairâs. Fun casual stuff that the whole community can enjoy without drama erupting.
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Do you need three page long essay about how bad it is to be nonce?
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No youâre being blatanlty rude for no reason, not all campaigns have drama in them?
It is rather creepy seeing people being 2ft tall and with characters under the age of consent wandering around.
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Wow, itâs almost like children donât really exist and are a figment of these peopleâs imaginations.
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Did I say such? I find it disturbing but I am not forcing people to block such things.
Well i apologise if you think itâs rude. let me rephrase it.
I just would like to see more casual fun stuff than big campaigns where drama has a tendency to erupt. Like markets and fairâs.
Why not host something yourself?
I am sure you can find many people willing to help you.
I will say that horde does lack on the social event currently, it tends to be more Alliance/Neutral.