I see a lot of the GDKP’ers claiming that they do GDKP because they get rewarded at the end of the run, regardless of outcome.
I hear you, I really do. But I still think you should ask yourself, why are you raiding in the first place? Is it because it’s something you enjoy doing in your sparetime? Is it for fun? Or is it just to be rewarded? Because the latter sounds an awful lot like my dayjob.
And if you’re in it for the reward and nothing else, perhaps you should question your own motives doing it in the first place. There’s absolutely nothing wrong in filling spare time doing something you enjoy even if you’re not guaranteed a reward. Just saying.
Exclusively for loot. I need it to have fun in open PvP. If no loot comes out, then I’d be happy to use it for gold so that I can buy pots or anything else that improves my chances in PvP.
There is no alternative. In order not to be completely dominated. From significantly better equipped.
I’m raiding to improve, however every raid is also an investment and seeing the 7th grey-green parsing rando walk out with that 1 item feels like crap. In a GDKP I can just outbid them until I find it not worth anymore at which point I at least get a nice chunk of gold.
Yes thats true, but worse ones for me. MS > OS experience was really bad in comparison. SR slightly better, but still not as good. Especially for alts with bad gear. Im not interested in guilds. The content is so easy and i have bad experience with guilds and doenst want to waste energy on forming relations.
Is there any other source of pretty much BiS gear?
In the other MMO I play, you can get BiS from crafting and as a reward of daily quests / logins. Not a trivial task, probably a mix of the two and taking a while.
Concept A: Play the game to get the best gear (leveling your character and items), then play on equal footing, find challenges. The reward is the fun, feeling successful and getting pretty stuff or utility.
Concept B: Play the game to find yourself struggling, but with enough grinding (and some skill), you can improve your character beyond necessity. The reward is feeling powerful and having and easy time cruising through content trivialized thanks to your efforts.
I feel like GDKP is trying to be both, in that you have relatively guaranteed gearing path as long as you make enough gold to be winning bids.
In said game (of concept A) you can also get almost-BiS from the AH, cheap even. BiS is entirely personal loot / self-found, unless I missed some activities.
In WoW it’s pretty clear that most players enjoy (have fun) when their numbers are going up, even though it’s clearly just inflation. Levels, stats, gear score, throughput.
Sorry everyone, after 12 years of training I accidentally lifted the planet. Now it’s heading towards the sun.
It’s simply a taste. Fortunately, WoW is not just raiding, but unfortunately raiding is the biggest factor for BiS. How anyone can currently enjoy raiding is inconceivable to me, for example, because even 5 year olds, possibly even mentally disabled, could clear the content. But tastes are different and you have to accept that. Others may find PvP just as pointless. The compulsion is just annoying and if I have to put myself through it, then I want to choose the most efficient way
Umm, yes. You can raid in other kinds of pugs, and preferably in a guild. There are plenty of other ways you can raid.
If you want to raid and have everything for yourself though, probably not. But in my humble opinion you really shouldn’t be able to in a multiplayer game either. That’s raiding at other peoples expense.
The boosting for gold, or RMT mentality, has killed the sense of playing the game for every player.
Now everything is buyable, hence, every achievement that you’d do, has no value, since everything can be measured in gold.
Buying gold is the main source of the problem, adding a IRL handicap (credit card money), and it’s unfair for those who aren’t rich.
I don’t want to play a game where a “rich” person can brag about its wealth, If I want to play a game is to disconnect from that reality in the first place, so it makes no sense; now, I’m not personally poor, but I’m not an oil lord, just to do the comparison, and just in case lol.
It is accepted in large parts of the GDKP community though, that’s the problem. Probably because participants get more personal value out of gold buyers, because they make the pot larger. And the pot is the thing that drives these people. I know people like this personally, don’t buy gold but benefit from people that do.
Cross player trading is though. Try playing SSF, you will realise some things are more or less out of bounds if you can’t trade in any shape or form.
Also, it’s a false narrative since trading in itself doesn’t encourage gold buying. Being in an open bid where the most wealthy one takes the whole cake does though.
You don’t need to have a 100k gold pot to start buying a BoE epic for 3k gold, though.
Nope, never did. I mean, I could buy 200k gold today at current SoD gold rate without breaking a sweat, but I don’t because I don’t think you should RMT (and don’t think you should encourage people that do).
Listen here you asked for my reason and I told you my reason, and you don’t have any argument against it otherwise you would have said so instead of implying I am entitled. GDKP is a system that gives power to the participants and lets them decide how much they value a given upgrade which makes it the by far most superior loot system for raiding PUGs.
That being said, I don’t raid GDKPs because Blizzard is too incompetent to ban cringe loser gold buyers.
However if I had ANY trust in this smol indi company I would raid GDKPs exclusively.
you asked for my reason and I told you my reason, and you don’t have any argument against it otherwise you would have said so instead of implying I am entitled. GDKP is a system that gives power to the participants and lets them decide how much they value a given upgrade which makes it the by far most superior loot system for raiding PUGs.