For sure, that would be the hope — Nath did something similar, with SCW carrying on past his opening plot. I’d be happy enough to create something that is enjoyed just for its duration.
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I like the idea of the city being more alive, so long as the rules you want to set in place apply to everyone, so no one in power can continue to abuse that place. That is the only worry i have on it, No one should have immunity.
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A specific issue with a reserve force is that I see it doing all of the things which people have previously complained about military guilds doing (lots of parade RP and drill RP with not much action) and not doing any of the things that the more popular military guilds do these days (venturing out to engage in storylines and RP-PvP campaigns outside of Stormwind).
I do wonder, how do the project founders plan on making ‘military reserves RP’ an interesting and compelling experience without transforming it into outright guard RP?
[quote]Feel free to offer your input, but I can’t promise I’ll read or respond.
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I hope a good, civil discussion can be had, still. Maybe certain concerns can be taken away that way.
The way I would deal with that personally is to have the soldiers out on active tours of duty. If you have four guilds you could even rotate them in and out so one is always in the city. If said guilds are close enough they could even share DMs.
Everything has a solution, it will all depend on the effort put in of those involved.
They aren’t intended to be ‘stationed in reserve’; I guess it’s kind of like a container — the guilds involved on the military side of things will be doing RP-PvP, campaigns, their own storylines, etc., essentially doing their own things. Under a description I’d written and probably saved elsewhere, members of the Reserve are not permitted to carry out a guard’s duties unless in times of martial law; so, spectacular failure of the civic administration to keep the peace. It’s also noted that:
In order to hint that these would be dire times, not done casually, and at great risk to the career of the individual ordering troops onto the streets.
At the same time, Stormwind’s military force is composed of normal people, who can have their own agendas and conflicts — likely expected to be developed more outside of SW than in it, but their time in SW and interaction with the other factions is nonetheless very important in my mind.
I wish you the best of luck Albrecht, and it sounds like quite some project, one which I am sure you will manage! I am also hoping to see more players on the streets and not on the roofs!
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Thank you, and yes! Please, get off the roofs and into the streets!
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I’ve long-preferred perching on lampposts anyway. Can’t hear anything on a roof.
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gods i hope not
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Speaking as one of these military guilds in question, it’s absolutely a wonderful initiative. There are significant stretches where us and the other regular Stormwind Army guilds are removed on furlough to Stormwind - and there just isn’t much for us to do. Having the threat (it is very much a threat, trust me) of being deployed to the streets with beatsticks will do a hell of a lot to liven up our roleplay whilst in the city.
As Albrecht says quite rightly, it is no small measure to decide to deploy the regular army when it comes to civil unrest. Speaking from experience, doing any sort of crowd control/riot operations in an unorganised city is absolute hell; everyone steps up to the plate to prove how cool they are because they know nobody can enforce consequences they themselves haven’t agreed to prior. With this initiative, however, with plenty of communication and mutual understanding, I do honestly think it will be a joy on the rare occasion that the military is deployed to see just how difficult it is for my farm boys and tradesmen to commit violence to those they swore to protect. Just an incredibly interesting character arc with infinite possibilities, really.
I can only see this initiative doing good things for the server. @all the people voicing their dissent - what have you done to promote good RP in Stormwind, other than chime in on the various “what is wrong” threads with an academic version of ‘XD stormwind is so bad XD XD’?
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I’m usually super contrarian, paranoid and all that stuff but how are they going to do that?
They couldn’t remove Shonn, and he seems to be extremely disliked.
I doubt they can, therefore, remove random bad stormwind RPers.
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I think you should be a little more transparent than this. What exactly are your criteria for guilds that seek to join? Are there any rules in place they need to abide to ? Do “normal” people hanging out in the guild actually have a say in how the narrative/story develops or does it happen in private discord channels and is then smacked onto the rest with an “eat or die” attitude?
People can make closed / public communities as much as they want and that’s fine, but I think you should clearly say -what- exactly you want to do and how. To me, yes, it is public in the sense that anyone can join to hang out in the pleb channels, but the circles in which all the decisions are made, are actually for an exclusive circle of officers/GMs. In the end, they will make the decision what narrative and story a large chunk of Stormwind RPers follow (provided this initiative catches on).
I think this can be simply achieved by excluding/shunning/ignoring specific people collectively. You aren’t actively removing the person, but the person in question may as well be gone if the majority simply blanks them.
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Thus we horseshoe our way right back to the royal court days? Now with Discord.
wow what a useful and constructive post ![:slight_smile:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=6" ":slight_smile:")
Feel free to write out any serious concerns you might have clearly I’m sure OP would appreciate that.
Sounds based
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Sounds very open to abuse to me. I mean, we all know how cliquey AD is and how there is a lot of bad blood between people.
I mean, what safeguards do we have that people aren’t going to abuse such “powers”?
Personally, I don’t think exclusion will be much of an issue here. I feel like it is unlikely that Albrecht and the rest of the “member” guilds are so charismatic that a community of so many (SWC is a pretty gigantic hub) would actually follow such a blacklist unless it is warranted.
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What’s the power? Are people not allowed to passively avoid participating in roleplay with those with a contrasting / different interpretation on the community & lore?
Would you force them to RP w/ ppl they don’t like, or what? Passively avoiding someone =/= directly harming them.
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Crazy new camp, hear me out: People afraid of players occupying positions of power have done sketchy stuff in the past that warranted them getting blacklisted or avoided by big guilds
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