You’re still the number one PCU glazer on AD ngl bro
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The thing is, ultimately, we’re just a bunch of nerds who like to roleplay in WoW. Just as passionate about our own characters, and the stories we make together, and the scenarios we run into through sharing in that community.
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Perhaps it might seem that way, if you want to view it in a negative light. On the other hand, it’s publicity. The PCU certainly thrived off of being the name on everybody’s lips on the forums for years. Some people might want to join a RP community that is twelve guilds strong and advertises itself as being all about the RP above all else.
That’s a little reductive, in my opinion. That description could be used for everyone who RPs on this server. Everyone RPs a little differently and has different approaches to RP and doesn’t like particular sorts of RP.
If it really was simple as you make it sound, there wouldn’t be any need for this particular community and there wouldn’t be any bubbles or grudges on this server.
So, like every RP community that has ever existed on this server, I’m sure your community has particular preferences that separate it from the rest of the server. Until I’ve got a better idea of what those preferences are, I’ll refrain from joining any A³ guilds or events, as they may not be suitable for me or I may bring something unwanted to the table.
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All of what I’ve had to say, I’ve already mentioned in the ((other)) thread so I’ll just drop some words of encouragement.
I hope A3 can drop the bad connotations and contribute to a healthier, more fun AD for all.
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Have you considered this might be because you still act like a bit of a prick?
Food for thought.
At the end of the day, the people in these guilds create content with each other for their members, they don’t owe anyone else anything.
The name change would signify they are trying to move on with their lives, the question I posit to those in this thread would be: why aren’t you?
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Something something looking in the mirror 
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I don’t mean this in a negative connotation so do not take it like that by any means but, people do have a right to have concerns regarding the PCU moving to a new community.
A lot of people had issues with the old PCU and these guilds although are no longer part of the PCU was part of the same PCU that was known for many problematic situations such as harassment, exclusion and bullying.
That is not to say that Watrus’ group or the other A3 groups did do it which I’m sure they didn’t but there are guilds like the HoC, RG, GG who had people that was abusive and bullying others within them. The HoC under new management and new membership is more than likely nothing like it’s predecessor but, when they’re spearheading a new Community people do have a right to question what it means for them and what they aim to do.
The PCU has a huge reputative stain against them and unfortunately people seeing them transfer to A3 will still share that same issue because, for all they know it’s just a change of name and people are going to take it the same way.
Now you could say; But they are going to do their own thing anyway which you’re justly right in saying so but, people who may be uncertain on partaking in RP with the new A3 or partaking in Campaigns with them still see them as former PCU.
Much like Shog has pointed out there is an air of worry that they’ll just be a repeat of the cycle again.
People can and will discuss things just as you discuss other guilds and narratives etc.
That’s just how it is and how it always will be.
Personally, I don’t mind what the A3 do or what they choose to occur and I don’t have a horse in the race either. It’s just a generalist take.
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I do see what you mean, and confess I misunderstood!
My response was more in thinking that there were concerns about the deeper motivations behind the community being made, and was based on that. When you’ve seen people make claims that you’re trying to monopolise a server, it’s easy to forget someone wondering what your deal might be could be talking about just roleplay.
I am sorry about having jumped!
I can definitely understand, and absolutely support, wanting to know what we are like in THAT regard. Because yes, absolutely, we have our preferences. Those common ideals or approaches that result in those guilds working well together and wanting to continue to do so.
I can try and elaborate some if you’d ever want, but perhaps considering my penchant for shoving my foot in my mouth I’d not blame you for choosing to turn to the much more diplomatic Gruggosh.
Anyway, I hope you’ll recognise I wasn’t trying to deliver an own on you earlier.
Also, sorry for using my e-mail voice. You know I almost signed this off with ‘Regards’? 
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But they don’t, PCU, A3, whatever isn’t a democratically elected body, or a government department, or anything even tangibly related to the server as a whole.
If Gruggosh or whoever else is in charge decides to answer questions, that’s a privilege.
The inner workings of one guild or another is completely irrelevant to anyone outside of the guild, if they do so choose to share information it is on their time, and no one elses.
People outside of the guilds have no right to demand anything.
Roleplay with these guilds if you want, or don’t if you don’t; it actually is that simple.
What exactly will this thread accomplish?
Another round of shared trauma dumping?
Chastising a group of people tangibly related to that ‘thing you dont like’ ?
Making forum talking heads feel high and mighty because they brought something ‘to light’ ?
Demands made upon a group of players by another group of players who will very likely never have anything to do with the former?
It’s asinine.
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Even the members see the validity in answering these questions and talking to others. They also have nothing to gain about being anti-social in regards to talking about their community.
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This is very much fair and quite frankly it is good to see that for the most part the thread has been kind of tolerant.
I myself appreciate the tag becoming public, transparency is always the first step to trust or something like that… and believe I just said my piece in the other thread so there is little else worthy of note for me to say.
TLDR. I am very much for a live and let live approach and it does look like the A3 is a project born out of genuine love for role-play, so I wish you luck on that front, as long as it is done in a fair and respectful way of other people’s boundaries and RP.
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While this is true, engaging with the forum regulars for almost half a decade at this point has worn rlly thin. It’s my deeply held belief that it’s better to just focus on roleplay in-game and organising RP together, rather than spending valuable time on social media spiel.
Clarity edit: If people do choose to engage, it’s basically their own business as long as they act with reasonable decorum.
Whilst you share a fair point with this. People have every right to question a guild that shares the same online space with them. No doubt you did the same thing where you would question guilds with your friends in discord like “Oh who are these guys event meant to be? What’s their point?” etc.
People can and will just ask that because they can.
Whilst also correct the same guilds used to demand things from others however in the RP scene such as when HoC was effectively acting like a Guard / Grunt guild and would push that RP onto other people without them wanting to be part of it.
Although highly unlikely to be like that now I’d say ne’er impossible because they don’t use Org anymore except the rare occurence and they just chill over in Razor Hill and enjoy their vibes as well as do their own thing.
But I’m not saying it was wrong what they did they was just trying to RP their concept at the time and help the community out and for what it’s worth HoC gave more to Orgrimmar than it took imho and I was on the dicey side a couple of times because of my own fudge ups.
I’m going to take a light jab here and say you’re one of them yourself so you tell me 
(No offence ofcourse - Banter.)
It will accomplish people in knowing what the A3 is all about it’s actually quite the great stage set for Grugg to talk about them like he already has.
As Shog has mentioned;
If you want to be part of a realm the best way is through communication and if you aim to help make the realm a better place cooperation is a great thing to have. That’s not to say they need to as Coalburnt says however, it is a good thing that they have and continue to do so.
Much like Koiffen said they don’t have to and it’s more oft than not that the people you are speaking and dealing with here on the forums are the usual folk who tend to discuss and rarely to the newer playerbase or a lot of the RP’ers in general that probably don’t even look at the Forums.
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That’s their perogative.
To force it upon them and treat it as if someone is being summoned to a war tribunal is the insane part.
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None of this should’ve been a public war announcement, given those involved with one severed ties with PCU over their own issues with it. Incredibly embarrassing to see this thread made and I can only hope people don’t start associating two entirely split communities over some shared members from eons ago.
No one is entitled to the inner workings of anyone else, especially not over fantasy roleplay. Good God, get a grip.
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Nobody pushed anything, people were free to engage or disengage as they desired; many of which disengaged to the relief of HoC members. It’s no different to the multitude of stormwind guard guilds, and they don’t get a thread every time a new one pops up.
Well you have a bit of history yourself Felentrick, how would you feel about it being trudged out every couple of months?
It’s not really being forced upon them, though? You’re genuinely the only one offended at the prospect and you’re not even in the community. If anything I’m actually kind of excited to learn about it and what separates it from previous projects in the same vein
The very creation of this thread has forced a response to what otherwise would be considered a nothingburger.
Don’t worry about it.
I will say is that the “we’re just here for the RP” approach is also the one that the PCU took a lot of the time, but I think we all know what the reaction would have been if I tried to join the PCU as a bartending demon hunter all about the social RP.
While this approach does help make the community seem friendly and welcoming, and I have no doubt that it is, a little detail might help so that people know exactly what to expect. For the most part, the individual guilds of A³ will being able to handle this well enough on their own, but if there is ever a larger event or campaign that is open to the public, a little more depth might help them understand what they can expect from A³.
It’s the only way to avoid being misconstrued on the internet. I do it all the time, it’s why my posts are so bloody boring.
It doesn’t work all the time though, as you can see from people comparing this thread on a video game forum to a “war tribunal” and “war announcement.”
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We all have our histories and mistakes.
A lot of mine was to the fact of me being a dogwater RP’er at points and being a general dipstick.
And more often than not it was trudged up every chance I tried to crack on. Difference is I think people actually learnt whilst speaking with me that I’m not what I was painted to be back then by none other than your own groups and a lot of claims made against me was proven to be false. 
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