About addons such as Questie

So, I installed Questie and used it for about a day. It works well, it is very comfortable and

it eliminates what I consider to be "the classic experience".

I think I realized that an addon like Questie effectively keeps me from emercing myself in the world. Why is that?

Even if you are not interested in the "flavor" of quests, but just in the essential kill/collect A and bring it to B, if you do it without an addon like Questie a minimal level of thinking and immersion is required to solve the quest: You need to open the map and connect the description in the text to what you know you have seen in the world, or where you guess that location might be. And that makes all the difference.

An addon with functionality like Questie eliminates a large part of the world exploration. If you just have an empty map, you dont know where to go. You cannot just "walk straight to the point" (no matter scenery or map design) to get to the exclamation mark or target area. The information that Questie gives me, drastically alters how I approach a new zone. I know where to go and how to be efficient. And that right there is poisen for what made vanilla so memorable for me.

The points I want to make:

  1. If you want to have the original exploration and immersion experience that made WoW so successful and beloved to many players: Don’t use Questie!

  2. This addon alters the game experience strongly. Personally I would like it if Blizzard took the same stance towards addons like Questie as they did for the LFG tool. For anyone who even remotely feels the need to be decently efficient compared to other people, it becomes a defacto standard to use it. And this will rob you of the experience that you were looking for in the first place. It’s rediculous, but I truly do think especially players who did not play vanilla, and want to experience it now as we did back in the day, need to be protected from addons like this.

Sincerely,
a fan.

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I mean, this is your opinion and you’re welcome to not use Questie.

However, I did vanilla when it was new. I’m kind of tired of having to decode each quest and work out whether my items aren’t dropping because I’m unlucky or killing the wrong mobs.

Aimless meandering was for when I was new to the game. I am not, and no amount of pretending will change that. I would like to get to the point of doing level 50+ dungeons with friends with reasonable efficiency, even if I am only averaging 2-3 hours per day.

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I am all for the Vanilla Experience
However… The one thing i think blizzard should have added was where the Hell you had to go and what char as a bloody quest

So i will keep using Questy

Play BFA. I dont use AddOn such as Questie.

Did people bother me? No.

Did it ruin my RP imagination? No

Do i love Classic? Hell Yeah.

What is my opinion on AddOns? Literally nothing since it doesnt affect the game mechanic or manipulate the game.

Again please play BFA if small things bother you.

Sincerely

A player from 2005

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I would say if there is an issue with it, it’s that it’s gotten too good.

On private servers the addon would have more issues, get more things wrong etc.

If I hadn’t played the game a few times fairly recently, I probably would play with it off and just google when im stuck.

Carbonite worked well tho

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I dont use questie I just go by memory because I have lvled in classic azeroth so many times I just go auto-mode.

I didnt actually try it. On my second and third characters I used pfquest, which was much worse(less “authentic”) than questie; it showed the spawn location of every mob you needed.

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Um… it’s a nothing issue

If you don’t want the experience don’t install it.

Other people having this type of addon doesn’t affect your experience of the game at all.

Move along. Nothing to see here. …

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Do you also think they should remove AtlasLoot? I mean, it removes the surprise and joy of an item dropping from a specific boss.

Also,

For you… Not everyone’s like you

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Yeah pfquest was a bit boring that’s why I liked carbonite since it just gave you a general location to head to if you couldn’t remember. I can remember back in the day having to use thottbot & co-ordinates to find the chicken in tanaris :smile:

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Um… it’s a nothing issue
If you don’t want the experience don’t install it.
Other people having this type of addon doesn’t affect your experience of the game at all.
Move along. Nothing to see here. …

This argument only works if you intend to play solo entirely. When I group up with someone else and that person is using Questie it completely destroys my immersion. I want to figure stuff out by myself by only using the tools that the game provides (i.e. quest text, map, player interaction, etc.) and the other person using Questie completely negates that. Sure you could say, then don’t play with that person, but do I seriously have to ask every single player whether they use the addon or not? In a way the addon has the potential to push people who want to have a proper classic experience to not play with other people which itself runs contradictory to a proper classic experience.

I think the OP explained the problem of Questie very well. I would only like to add this little argument that it can also ruin your experience even if you are not using it yourself

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People were just looking up where to go on thottbot instead or buying the latest edition of Joana’s guide, questie just takes the dot and puts it on your map in game. Makes no difference.

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Yeah, you know what we did in 2005? We alt-tabbed out of the game and searched for things on Thottbot. You talk about immersion but you know what really kills immersion?

ALT-TABBING OUT OF THE GAME!

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The thing with LFG tool is that they aren’t banning the addon. They will just make some of the function it’s using blocked so only Blizzard made addons can use them. That way addon just simple will stop working. I’m a bit afraid that it might break RP addons that use chat channel in order to exchange information in the network they create that help other players to see your RP profile.

With Questie, in order to break it they would need to break quite a lot of usuful addons. Putting additional stuff in tooltips, rp addons, ah addons, vendor price addons break. Putting icons on the screen, break pretty much almost every addon. Putting icons on the map, some map addons, gethering addons, rp addons will break. Getting your active quests, you could break that but it might break quest log addons, quest tracking addons and potentialy ui replacement addons.

I’m using questie but not becasue I want to know what mobs to kill but becasue I want to know where I find the quests so I can compelete them all. It’s not a game breaking addon especially given the fact that half of those quests I already done multiple times and I know exactly what to do and where to go.

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Your classic experience shouldn’t be mine, right? Let players choose how they want to experience it. Why do you want to force people to experience your experience?

And FYI: I use questie, but only to display available quests on the world map, all other things I do from memory and reading the thing. I don’t use the objective (quest location) tracker, I don’t use the completed quests tracker. Really only to see where new quests are and to decide if I should go there or not. Saves me literally only 30 seconds googling per area switch, not hours at once so why care?

One more time, why do you want people to experience your experience? How do you prove all players you group up with are using questie? Before grouping up, why haven’t you figured out what to do beforehand? Letting people wait for you kills their experience as well. Most people grouping up, for quests, expect both sides to know what to do. That being said all you do is killing your own experience, all I’m saying.

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Dude stop writing crinngeworthy posts, if not questie people would just google guides, forcing a certain way to play is just f*cking stupid.

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There’s other AddOns for questing such as Classic Codex.
It show’s where quests are, and it shows where mobs spawn.

Without questie, or just the internet in general… I woule have missed some essential quests. Without the knowledge, there would be many good item upgrades I would have missed in a different zone than the one I would be questing in. An upgrade which would make or break the experience for some players because sometimes the game is difficult.

People who want and seek an immersive experience do not use those addons or online guides.

Sure, you miss perhaps the chat of “where do I go for XXX” and people speculating and discovering hidden quests, but that ship sailed already after the first year of the original game when online guides, thottbott and fansites started popping up.

My point being: If you want to immerse yourself there is nothing stopping you from doing so. The questhelper provided by Questie has to be manually installed and there are no tooltips or questmarkers by default.