Hello folks, I want to share my thoughts about the next expansion and the main characters of that expansion which you guessed right are these high egocentric elves.
First, as an alliance, I don’t want to do anything with these people, they already decided with who to side with, and I really can’t care less if they get consumed by Dimensius without alliance stepping in to help horde defeat the threat of Dimensius in Silvermoon. But seriously, you put expansion about horde story, and you force alliance there too??? No thank you, I am not gonna have fun doing quests in eversong forest or ghostlands for these highly superior people. So it seems to be we are getting elvocalupse at last day of tww starting, which I don’t even wanna be part of, and gladly would skip to the last titan.
Second, general thoughts on the horde elves. I know it is blizzards canon and they wanted them to be horde initially, as we could see from wc3 ending, but still I will share my discontent as an alliance player, that they intentionally painted alliance dirty in relations to the most right race of elves. I really hate Garithos storyline with a passion and wish wc3 part where they did the story about that guy was never existing, he was such a selfish person (any strong word about selfish people applies, just don’t wanna use any slurs), and just because of him, the whole nation of elves HATES alliance. If my gnome warrior was around at the times of Garithos, I would put his head on a pike of the highest tower in Dalaran.
And what about now, now I am just tired of these elves altogether, they just seem to have that complex of high superiority, and don’t fit in any faction at this point tbh, especially after forced cleaning in the end of tbc, back then they at least were kinda fit to the faction of brutal orcs, because they had demonic stuff in their nature. But now they are just high elves with a red banner, and that just feels like slap in the face to alliance and partially horde (they lost edginess to qualify more to be part of the horde). I can tolerate even orcs and all other horde, but can’t stand these elves, they probably even think they are the CORE of the horde. For example I would be fine to have some beer with brutal orcs or mighty tauren in the tavern but don’t wanna even see any red elf in 100 feet distance. So, why I also think they would not fit any faction is because of their superiority, I doubt they would even wanna to take orders from some warchief or the king. I still don’t know how they pleaded before Thrall putting aside all of their superiority, because otherwise I would not be surprised if he stepped in their face with his boot.
But these are just my feelings and thoughts about all of this, especially knowing that the elvocalupse of an expansion is on the horizon, which I really dreading, at least they giving us last chill times with goblin themes before the elven storm, I would maybe even level a goblin to see kezan again and their story and then delve into undermine and tryout even their crazy D.R.I.V.E.
As usual the discussion is open and feel free to share your thoughts, just be civil and don’t bring any irl/politics etc.
Blizz has noted your Elvish grievances and has put a pin on it in the corner of a large bulletin board saying NO with a small sticky note [Maybe] in said corner.
Yeah just what we need, more elves
Don’t you cry about doing stuff for horde npcs.
We horde players need to work for alliance npcs all the time
If you don’t like the Horde or the fact that the majority of High Elves canonically joined them then, maybe don’t play the next expansion?
WoW is a game. You do not have to play any game that makes you feel uncomfortable.
I didn’t like how in BFA each faction got their own separate story. The Alliance story wasn’t great either.
I think it’s better that Alliance players do the same Horde Story (more or less, minor differences are fine).
Do you have any idea how little this narrows it down?
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Always. 
I already stated what I would do when the next expac rolls out:
And yeah I understand that blizz has intended these elves to be horde, and that is their canon, so nobody is changing anything about it anyways. I guess I should never see story before wc3 ending and just accept the fact that blizz thinks elves are part of cool “evil” faction, and the boring “good” faction should just bite ankles
Now, there’s definitely room for complaint towards how Blizzard have handled the writing situation over the years, but calling the Horde “evil” and the Alliance “good” is definitely not helping the situation.
The Horde are not meant to be evil. They are a bunch of disparate races brought together by a need for survival and a sense of honour. Their pragmatic and forceful approach to maintaining their cause isn’t necessarily evil.
When Blizzard are unable to write anything by the widest of vague concepts though, that’s when you get dumb ideas like Garrosh and Sylvanas turning evil.
The Alliance also have issues with writing. They can indeed be seen as boring because it seems like there is a rule stating that nothing must break their rigid norm. Everything has to be mundane, flatline “lawful good” and any real variety and diversity. They are all the same mindset and are just different flavours of human, more or less.
Blizzard have fumbled a lot, but the Elves joining the Horde is not one of them. Garithos was a much needed attempt at greying the Alliance a bit and it’s a shame that that has been completely removed so that the Blue Faction is so monotonously goody-goody. Imagine if we had that sort of alignment diversity in more recent years - the writing team could give a rest on beating the “Horde suddenly momentarily evil” dead horse and try something new and Blue!
Maybe just get rid of blue faction altogether, delete all humans, gnomes, dwarves everything, just be it world of true craft, at least nobody would grieve about elves anymore because there are no other faction anymore.
Alliance is not worth of saving anymore, they are just too boring, maybe villain bat would help but I would rather just delete that faction, horde is the only cool guys these days anyways
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Or, maybe be a bit more sensible and just write them better? We could have had some angst from Greymane and Tyrande during BFA - imagine if Greymane had tried assassinating Sylvanas better and that caused the advance on Darkshore.
Turalyon is in charge of the Alliance. He’s a military man and a strong believer in the Light. We’ve seen how authoritarian the Light can be and the general consensus is that we should be looking for a middle ground between chaos and order.
He wouldn’t need to be pure unapologetically evil, but it could easily be written that he starts an Alliance territorial expansion. That would add depth. Especially if Anduin grew a backbone and then challenged this view.
“Whatever the question, ‘More elves’ is the answer”
- Somebody at Blizz, probably.
I support this!
For the Horde! For Silvermoon!
from your reply it is kinda true that elves hate alliance even more than entirety of the horde, so funny, that elves which did joined horde not at her inception feeling they are the loudest and the most decisive part of it, imagine we had elven warchief, interesting how it would play out
All the time is hyperbole.
Anyway… I wouldn’t mind visiting Silvermoon on my alliance characters. As long as they add /spit back into the game first.
It’s a joke! I want every race to get along!!
Except draenei. They should leave the planet.
Well yes a bit hyperbole that’s true but we work pretty often for them.
I don’t even know what thrall does in tww.
Is he even still on the island?
I don’t know what he’s currently doing - but that’s an issue with the expansion overal. But we helped him (or he ‘helped’ us sort of - funny how that works in MMORPGs) with those storm gryphons. So we did a little bit of questing with him.
The main story has been sitting there for far too long. Two patches of basically not pushing the narrative forward was too much. They made a mistake there imo.