Absolutely no point playing random Battlegrounds because every game is 99% premades now

Sweet thnx a lot. I was typing all that crap but I liked how you just demolished all his bs with simple icecold stats lol

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This is what premade random bg players refuse to admit, probably because itā€™s quite embarrassing.

I donā€™t buy the ā€˜it takes too long to form RBG groupsā€¦weā€™re just having fun with friendsā€™ and all the other excuses for not participating in rated. They are literally in battleground communities and guilds. They queue with 3-5 people at a time in unrated content and they queue sync groups to play together in unrated content.

Letā€™s say it for what it is: they enjoy using their 100 consumables, max gear and all of their toys to stomp people that are still in timewalking gear and trying to remember what their movement keybinds are because theyā€™re too bad when it comes to equal footings.

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Few days ago i joined a bg on the same site as the premade, was fun scrolling through the known names to see how good there are in brackets where they canā€™t abuse a premade.

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blizzard will never do anything about premades in random bgs. Simply because they could not care less about this pvp department. If streamers and top arena players complain about wierd mmr system or other fundamental issues with rated pvp, it takes blizzard months to react. And you come up with what ā€¦ premades? Problem? Randoms? :smiley: lol forget it

I donā€™t understand post like this. So you donā€™t care about premades and randoms and problemsā€¦ Okay cool.
You might even be right and blizzard will never do anything about it.
Donā€™t watch streamers but the only reason Blizzard cares about Arenaā€™s is because they desperately want it to be a succesful e-sport. Iā€™d argue it aint that popular at all. The random bg community is way bigger then the arena one. Thereā€™s a 5 year old post about battlegrounds thatā€™s still active. So I donā€™t think your ā€œlol forget itā€ applies here. But feel free to follow your own advice. cyaā€™s

Sorry mate, here I am the hunter, they are little bears.

The only one who is almost impossible to kill is Larkus, the rest, Zado, Alfredo, Nepha, etcā€¦ are cannon fodder, as long as they get away from the healers they have attached to their asses. And anyone who has played against them many times can tell you.

I have to admit, I laughed when I imagined it xdd.

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I kinda like bears. I see them more as leeches or cockroaches.
Indeed, I walk right thru Zadƶ If I can pick him out the groupā€¦Just a bunch of weak cowards that can only play with a massive advantage. The Larkus guy I donā€™t really know, think I only came up against him once or twice.

Thatā€™s the lies they have to tell themselves to convince themselves theyā€™re not cowards.

I mean I played rdr2 online where I got spawncamped the first day by people 600lvls above me but I didnā€™t really care as I did manage to get some kills in. But then all this weird stuff kept happening. Legendary animals falling from the sky attacking me. UFOā€™s attached to my character that I couldnt get rid off. I would explode randomly from out of no where when no other players near me etc. I would get attacked by people who I just couldnā€™t kill because they where invincible. Turns out people are buying mod menuā€™s that break the game and give you literal god mode and they just bully players out of the lobby the entire time with their god powers. Like they would literally stand somewhere outside the map ore above the clouds invicible and hiding and just using the mod menu to bully players out of the session from a distance. I got so pissed of that I bought a better mod menu and started to bully the bullies. turns out when you treat them the same way and they cant kill you anymore with their cheats,they log off insanely fast lol. And when I ask them why theyā€™re so fkn sad they always said the same ā€œchill bro were just having fun yadiayadaā€ bsā€¦
Same type of sad people are these premade wankers. If they could be in god mode and stomp randoms all day every day they would happily do it.
Donā€™t understand it tbh. Soon as I got the mod menu myself, sure I had a little fun getting back at the cheaters but it made playing the game basically pointless as nothing is a challenge anymoreā€¦

And there is not just Zado on the horde side. There are 3-4 premades in the same time for both factions. I queue with a horde char and there is an Ally premade, then I quit and join with ally char and there is an Horde premade in Epic BGs.

No matter which faction I queue asā€¦ I always got a premade farm group on the opposite faction for days/weeks.

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I donā€™t think its this at all. I have spammed BGs every single expansion and I never saw these premades in WoTLK or Cata or MoP or WoD. It was maybe once a week youā€™d see 1 premade for 2 or 3 bgs that day. it was only in Legion that they started to appear a lot and it was only in BFA that they started to become ubiquitous in all BG modes.

I still hold by my theory that they have attached their mental well-being to their honour level number. I donā€™t think this is any different to a gym-obsessed young man or those people who collect hundreds of funkopops. Their lives are miserable, but the one constant that they know they can rely upon is that every day, without fail, their number will go up from 3281 to 3282. They can feel excitement about ā€œin a week iā€™ll be 3400ā€ or ā€œiā€™ll be 4000 before next expansion.ā€ It gives them the illusion of life goals.

Everything else is in their lives is chaos. No job, no friends, family doesnā€™t speak to them, house is a mess, but ā€œahh, lets ignore all that, because look - I just got to honour level 3283. Iā€™m one of the highest honour level players, did you know? Quickly - queue up another BG before my conscious returns to me and I start thinking about my life. Oh thank god - a queue pop!ā€

Its escapism in an extremely toxic form because it destroys things for other people. Everyone has their own form of escapism. Some people go for walks when life gets too much, other people put on an audio book, other people play loud music to drown out the bad thoughts - these guys just grind honour levels.

Blizzard should run an experiment - for 1 whole year, turn off honour levels. Just hide them in their entirety. You donā€™t gain any exp towards the next level, and you canā€™t see what level you or anyone else is. I strongly believe the 1,500+ honour level players would mysteriously no longer find spamming BGs to be fun. Some of them might even top themselves. Regardless, I think it would instantly remove from the game the worst offenders, who have spammed BGs as a 5 stack or queue synced BGs with 15+ players, every single day, for half a decade.

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My suggestion to everyone here is to not play epics, what will be left in the end is the premades fighting each other. They will get tired fast and eventually disband. After all they are not out to fight each other but casual plebs. So if people stop queing you will make it hard for premades, and they will quit.

But if you keep queing your going to have a bad time. Its like going into the MMA ring again and again all the time getting beaten up against a proffesional. We all have a brain so just use it!

Ive done this, but I get the cookie cutter respond from a bot that this user hasnā€™t violated anything in terms.
Its like theyā€™re not even trying to fix their gameā€™s problems.

So escaped the toxic world to be toxic.
Logic.

Or, you knowā€¦ they could just abolish queue syncing. The measures necessary to do so have been discussed here and wouldnā€™t be hard to introduce. The game would be much better for all players who are not playing epic bgs in synced premades.

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Right because we have own battle groups and then we were mixed

if you dont have any friends just say that.

I donā€™t need friends you tool, Iā€™m just here to play a video game. When I want to meet my friends we go to a gig or on the drink or for a sesh, not holding hands cos weā€™re scared of losing in a video game.

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First they asked for removal of Shadowlands PvP gear system because it was putting the casual plebs at ā€˜disadvantageā€™. They got what they wanted. Now they are asking for a debuff reduction of health & dmg for each person in group. Maybe theyā€™ll get it? And when they get it, whats next excuse? :slight_smile:

Learn to play the gameā€¦

The Dragonflight gearing system is a huge improvement over SL. You should defeat your opponent because you play better than them, not because your gear is twice as powerful and produces twice the numbers. There is also no need for the quotation marks. It was quite literally a serious disadvantage that allowed players in higher ranked leagues to defeat players in lesser leagues and unranked players more easily and Iā€™m glad that itā€™s gone.

I support this idea as a player who likes to play casual bgs in groups himself. A premade group allows you to control the quality of your players. Of course you invite strong and capable players, and if your opponents donā€™t have a similar group on their side, itā€™s just one-sided slaughter where the 5 stack premade wins effortlessly because they have all the strong players.

This debuff would compensate solo players and smaller groups and give them a fighting chance against 5 stack premades. And the 5 stack premades could compensate for their nerfed power by playing smarter and win regardless. 5 stacks would no longer win by default just by joining together.

Iā€™ve defeated you twice this evening.

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