If that was the case I’d be 100% okay with boosting, it’s not.
Just google : WoW gold
Doing this gave me the first 18 of which the entirety of the first page of google search of boosting websites and the 19th video is some gold farming youtube vid.
To quoute some of these websites.
" 100% gamer protection "
"100% reliable "
" 15 years trustworthy Wow gold "
Yeah I would know I’ve seen the same fricking website for as long as I remember.
" Cheap, fast, safe and 24/7 "
After those you get RMT in discord/private chat logs that happens quite often too.
And then the insane amount of botters /multibox+botters to the point where blizzard just dedicates banwave that has been ongoing for so long and we haven’t seen a positive effect for it yet.
You mean to tell me the people buying full mythic clears, buying 2k rio, buying a +15 every week, buying full heroic clears farmed their gold… that is very… very naiive.
Barely anyone buys full mythic clears, the people that do have hundreds upon hundreds of millions of gold thanks to legion, years of herbing/spend their entire free time playing wow.
The #1 HoA Level guy Buckethead used to farm islands the entire day, and buys a HoF Boost every tier, I doubt he buys that gold illegally.
15s don’t cost that much rn, that’s easily doable with a few hours of herbing a week.
While there is RMT it’s not as huge of an issue anymore as people make it out to be.
Alot of buyers also happen to be boosters. As Lxser pointed out nobody with a sane mind buys a full mythic clear unless he already has god knows how much gold from the past as its not profitable nor advisable. Everything else you listed is nothing in terms of costs and i could easily bring up that money on a weekly basis. Alot of people buying boosts happen to be the alts of the boosters.
There is such an enourmous amount of gold on the servers as a whole atm that while you think the numbers are big they infact are really not in comparison. Especially given how old the game is.
There are also so many ways of making gold. Be it professions on mass, gathering upon xpac or new raid tier launch (the first one being more attractive), running old content on mass etc (or during draenor abusing the living heck out of the garrison missons. Which floodded the servers even more with gold) or simply playing the auction house etc (which you could do semi automatically with addons prior to the revamp. Probably still can, wouldnt be surprised)
Blizzard never did bann multiboxxers. Botters yes. Alas while botters deserve to be banned and whatnot i must say i enjoy one thing about them: Crashing the Auction house value for herbs. People are completely out of their minds when it comes to prices for the herbs after every xpac launch and the sooner those prices drop the better.
i hate boosters. if the is a guild with 4 people and getting gold to boost a player for the 15 yes i think its ok. but 1 guy asking 3 -4 people to give him gold to boost them but the run, when all he does it form the group and has maybe a high dps… it is just stupid from the people that pay. still i don’t think should be bannable or muted
Yes, it is community that decides that they are tired of same people spamming. It is exactly this. maybe do not post your lines so often ? maybe the problem is in you and you constantly every 2nd other poster spam ?
I wasn’t reporting any boosters until today. From now on I will just report. I don’t want anyone who was boosted. Back in the day it was VERY obvious who bought a boost service. These days, thanks to Devs, game is so easy and to see boosted people is not very easy.
Trade chat is trade chat no matter the server, and no matter the people typing on it. Do you know the definition of trade?
Yeah well my ticket about it right now is 5 days old, and still unanswered, but I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt because of the pandemic.
Amazing life goals mate, good job.
As I said, I am not using the Group finder tool to advertise, I’m using trade chat, which is within the ToS.
A service in exchange for gold is just as much a trade as a mount in exchange for gold (as an example), however, yes, there do needs to be a seperate channel for this, not because it’d make sense, but because the community mentality towards boosters is insane.
Well if it IS an actual case of someone spamming, then go ahead, as that is distruptive.
Was the case before WoW Tokens, and BoEs are now just as “p2w” (because someone has to win the lottery to get the right corruption on their item, then put it on the AH) as boosting. However, there is a fundamental difference here: for boosting, you need very well geared and very coordinated people to boost others, to the degree where one or more customers can straight up AFK. There is a lot of work to be put there, so the boostees aren’t getting ahead of the curve, or in most cases, aren’t even near it even after being boosted multiple times.
As long as it’s not a scammer website, and they don’t advertise their website within the game (and if it’s not goldselling, as Blizzard has the monopoly on that), then it should be fine. However, if you were to look goldfarms for WoW, then I suggest changing your google search.
I’d like to see much less botting in the game, however, multiboxing is sadly within the ToS, so a lot of those guys don’t get banned.
You got a point there, but it is a fact that you can farm out your gold to be boosted quite quickly. Of course, WoW tokens make this much easier, but my point was that the average player doesn’t pay hundreds of euros just on their alt to be boosted to a decent gear level.
As for full mythic clears, there isn’t a heavy market for that, in fact, it’s very niche. Buying heroic clears is much more widespread, as it’s easier for everyone involved, both in terms for the booster’s job being easier, and how much cheaper it is for the customer. Same for +15’s.
Well, it isn’t, as long as you operate within the ToS, which is, don’t advertise on Group Finder, don’t spam, and naturally, don’t be harassive or disruptive. I was none of that.
It’s the ToS that decides, in EVERY game, who gets banned. Especially in a subscription based game, getting falsely banned also means that you are losing time in your subscription. And no, I wasn’t breaking the ToS, and I was not spamming, I was not being distruptive. With the same mentality, people should be reporting guild advertisements as well. Guild adverts happen just as regularly as boosting adverts.
Great life goals mate, go on and report everyone, no matter if they regulate within the ToS or not.
Blizzard should start punishing people who falsely report others.
Being a member of the community that has ruined trade chat and Blizzard does nothing about is a solid reason to mute you. If Blizzard won’t stop you from ruining trade chat - and keep in mind, it’s not the fact that you’re selling boosts - then the community itself needs to do something to make the game playable. Because you make it unplayable. Do you get that? We mute annoying people, it’s that simple.
So, being guilty by association is bannable? Even though I’m a private booster? And if you think trading ruined trade chat, then I don’t know what to say.
I’d be curious how boosters ruin the gameplay experience within WoW. As it doesn’t, at all, but I’m curious of a new take.
Even if that was the case - which it isn’t - you are still reporting people (well, me in this case) while they are operating within the ToS.
In order to make chats in hub areas usable at all, I had to disable trade chat completely. Right now, because of your community trade chat is completely unusable. Trading is a vital part of MMO, it has great social elements, where you can find recurring clients that just buy out your supply directly without using the AH. You ruin that. Every time I turn on trade chat my game becomes literal cancer.
This is a problem that is really hard to tackle.
Maybe best solution is to add a boosters channel so that trade channel can be used for trading and boost offers can go somewhere else. As it is now, trade can barely be used for anything else than boosting services simply due to the abundance of boosting services available.
Because trade chat isn’t flooded with other people trading, advertising guilds, or just talking in general… and besides, you have tools given to you by Blizzard for easier chat management.
How would boosters ruin that? Just because a booster popped out out from the blue, that doesn’t mean that they will kidnap your regular customers, and force them to buy boosts?
Boosting IS trading. It’s a service in exchange for gold.
I’m sorry for people wanting to take part in trading
Either that - which would be bad, because boosting IS trading, but it would severely reduce the amount of community outrage over nothing - or rework the reporting feature. Give it a filter that parses your chat logs for no-no stuff, and if nothing was caught, yet you got reported a lot, then a GM handles the case. This way, there is less work placed on the CS / GM team, and people who actually falsely reported others can get punished.
As for what the trade chat is used for, it really depends on the server. Here on Argent Dawn, it’s used for pretty much everything.
Well this is exactly my point to be honest. And while boosting is basically trading goods, I think we can all agree the boosting business is so big it does deserve its own place.
Besides that, people are very divided on the boosting so giving everyone the option to use boost channel is imo a win-win.
I’m not against boosting but I do like earning my progress instead of buying it and I find myself getting annoyed at trade chat scrolling so fast from all the boosters ads that I have actually turned it off on all my characters.
Blizzard’s job is very tiny here. It is the community’s job to police itself, you know. To come up with rules, for each server. It is bound to happen. If you’re constantly getting reported and muted, if everyone on the server ignores you, that is the server coming up with its own social structure and Blizzard shouldn’t really step in.
And yes - trade chat is perfectly fine when there’s no boosters around because I can actually see other people’s offers, I can find something I am interested in. Nobody likes your community and you’re going to have to deal with that or change. You will not talk me into accepting boost sellers.
And the reason why boost sellers have to spam so much is that there’s much bigger supply than demand for boosts. Because nobody likes boost sellers and nobody is pathetic enough to buy a boost, the whole you lot needs to spam and compete over a few customers. Sad!
So if the community forces you to never leave your house for a day, does that mean that the police should not be involved? That is not how it works buddy. If my neighbours lock me down within my house, while I’ve done nothing wrong, then of course I’m going to call the police to handle the case, because I want to leave my house.
It’s the exact same within WoW. Blizzard is the police, and they are the government. They get to dictate what is right, what is within the ToS, and what is not. I was not breaking the ToS, I am not ruining the gameplay experience of anyone by pressing my advertisement macro every 3-5 minutes, at most, I’m just annoying some people who most likely have better things to do in life, such as finally filtering out trade chat for themselves, as it is very much possible to do so.
xD okay, you should equip some glasses then, if you are looking for something specific in trade chat, then of course you are going to see lot of people whose offers are of no meaning to you.
Aha, thats why boosting has been flourishing for 15 years now. That is why I have also sold 70+ boosts on my own in the span of two weeks. That is why there are people who understand that boosting isn’t bad for the game.
Those who actually do spam it a LOT should be reported, as they are taking up trade chat. And no, both the supply and demand are quite even. I’d go so far as to say that the demand is higher than the supply, with the amount of content in the game.
I’d advise to check out some of the legit boosting communities, and see how many customers they have. You may also want to ask around some private boosters, and see how many customers they get.
Blizzard’s job is to create a happy community of people who actually want to leave their real lives to come and hang out in WoW. Your community is a detriment to that. Your analogy is really stupid. In real life we call the police on people who disturb the community and the police hauls them away. You do this, your community causes the rest of us to completely turn off chats. Do you really think you’re the good guys here? Blizzard’s inaction is the best choice you’re getting. Because Blizzard’s action would be towards making the community more pleasant. They implemented the feature to report advertising in the group finder, which way do you think Blizzard leans?
We are saying in this thread that your entire community is ruining the game. Take that as you will, but don’t expect anybody to like you. You choose what you do, and the community chooses how to react. You’re not entitled to anybody’s approval.
