Seriously? People asking for achievement to join raid? I’ve never seen that. I agree this is nonsense.
But the reason why I like achievements is that it makes you wish to discover the world and get rewarded for that. I don’t care about mounts, but titles are so fun. This is about flavor.
Wotlk has insane gatekeeping, to join most pugs you need:
achievements
good logs
high gs
even applying to guilds you need those things becasues guilds dont have the time to bring players up.
Agree with you about gs, this is quite painful. I was never asked for achievements and logs though. But I’m not a huge raider. I grew up playing War3 so I just really wanted to get the Arthas vibe
But leveling your cooking and have “Chef [Name]” is quite cool
im the same but unfortunately not everyone is as chilled as that, if achievements got added players would abuse it and prevent new players from joining raids etc,
Which is proposed Classic+ changes. It’s also going to be on the Classic Era servers. I mean, if it were WLK+ or Retail+ it would be on those launchers.
I don’t think Classic Era is ever going to be impacted. Classic Era will always stay Classic Era. That’s what it was made for.
Now, season WoW is about experiment. I really enjoyed SOM but they decided to release it just at the same time as TBC and after 2 years of Vanilla…
I simply wanted a new SOM, with a couple changes here and there (dual spec, achievements), I’m not so hyped about SOD but I’ll give it a try.
I hope they add achievements. These servers are open for 1 year, so I figure we need some kind of memories of what we achieved during this season!
Edit: I’ve re-watch Blizzcon what’s next SOD and honestly I feel this season is an opportunity for achievements in Vanilla.
They mentioned a lot of secrets to find around the world. I think it would be great to be hunting for those secrets and maybe get a title when you discovered all of them.
I would love to see achievements in classic too. I think they would be great in hardcore as they could persist after death, but in general I like being able to track my progress.
Personally, I don’t really mind about the gatekeeping to raids etc… and I like to compare my progress to other players.
There is an add on which tracks achievements for classic. It looks like it is not updated, but I have been tempted on having a go at fixing it and re-releasing,
I’m the developer of Classic Talent Calculator on iPhone - ( to give my work a plug !)
SoD launch features are already locked so suddenly achievements won’t be added.
What can be present is runes or other rewards for doing a long quest chain or clearing a zone out of quests. We don’t know that but they did allude to some of this.
Well it’s not like it would be a ton of work. The achievement system is already in WOTLK and has already tons of achievements on Classic Vanilla part of the game. I really don’t think this is about workload. More about what the community wants. That’s the reason of the topic
I’m not a fan of achievements (specifically the way they are in WoW) as they feel very artificial and “game-y”, so to speak. That been said, I wouldn’t be against “hidden” achievements that give special titles.
If this is the only problem than the solution is simple. Eliminate instance achievments and keep only Exploration, quest ones. But that is not really true is it? Gatekeeping exists in game with or without achievements. Gear inspections before join are both more time consuming and more rage inducing than achievement gatekeeping.