But it doesn’t have to be a bold statement.
In fact, the fact that it isn’t is encouraging. It’s not sensational it just… is.
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I still don’t understand how people became so shallow that “Inclusiveness” is viewed as “good”. Do people value themselves so little they need to see some important character say “Yeah I have this quirk” to exist?
And of course, we will only see “inclusiveness” towards the “morally superior”.
Meanwhile the game became a fast-food mobile game but hey it’s okay we have gays and transgenders !
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I pointed out that Blizzard hid behind fake inclusivity all the while being toxic to their community by forcing us to ride that hamster wheel super hard in order to progress our characters. Sorry if it’s not how it came out, English is not my native language.
Somebody claims to be LGBT on the internet…then criticises a company for being more inclusive, in pretty much the same terms as the homophobes…
…and complains Blizzard didn’t provide him with a close protection secuirty detail, 10 years ago?
I’m calling shenanigans
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Yeah, the last 2 replies sealed that notion.
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Problem is that lot of companies nowadays just pump out absolute crap as cheap they can without any pride of their work at all to get the fast buck before they dump the product and go milk the next dry.
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You’ve been missing the point since the beginning of the thread. Oh yeah, by the way, not all gays think alike, we’re not like some kind of collective mind or something.
Nope, I don’t think I have… and right on cue, the usual, more obvious, posts are appearing.
You should probably stop saying ‘we’ and ‘us’ then.
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I got silenced for “disruptive play” yesterday. I checked the logs and I didn’t use a single swear word, but apparently it’s enough that someone, somewhere took offense to being told to improve. 3 day silence though, so it’s not the end of the world, but it shows their commitment to virtue signalling.
I hear you. I remember all throughout Burning Crusade and especially Cataclysm, when blood elf males were the butt of so many homophobic jokes in quests because their perceived as feminine of flamboyant.
And let’s not forget this from as early as 2006: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/gamesblog/2006/jan/30/howqueerwowa
"Blizzard’s stance was clear that recruiting for a guild using “GLBT” was inappropriate as, the company said, it may “incite certain responses in other players that will allow for discussion that we feel has no place in our game.”
It’s a big 180 that they started their inclusivity all at once, and it can seem pretty jarring.
Straight, white men have been the focus of almost all gaming media since its inception. Without assuming your identity, it’s easy to say that when all gaming characters and narratives have been tailored towards the majority. From as early as playing Baldur’s Gate in the 2000s, seeing gay and Black characters in the game made it feel like a more comfortable and realistic universe. The world isn’t wholly white or wholly straight, and so having games that still still stick to that as their sole audience are missing out on huge chunks of their playerbase.
I don’t think OP is lying about his sexuality; at least, from what I’ve read, it doesn’t look like it. From another queer perspective I agree that Blizzard has been hypocritical in the past in terms of representation (remember when ‘gay’ was banned from the forums?). I don’t necessarily agree with OP, but I don’t think he’s exactly saying that he doesn’t want queer representation in games, but more that the represented to him as felt forced or hamfisted.
That’s my take, anyway. If he posts a dog whistle I’ll be the first to point it out.
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Why not just detach the idea of representation from the idea of marketing and profitability?
Or better yet, accept that values are used for selling produce across the board, since the beginning of [recorded] time.
Trying to attach some kind of moral purity in use of things is pretty futile.
FYI, when a company “caters” to a community, the community is used as a tool. You’re saying that it is wrong here because the game is poorly designed, but that assumes that it’s fine to be used if the game is good.
This is purely my opinion, but you should value yourself higher than to be used as a tool for sales. As I said earlier, “Inclusiveness” is just a very shallow trend.
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Call me an idealist 
Get used to it; gay people and People of Colour have existed since, uh, the dawn of mankind. They aren’t going anywhere, so if you don’t like them being in your games, you might be better off finding a different game.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
\ (^^,)/
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He isn’t saying he doesn’t like inclusivity, he’s saying he doesn’t like companies making bank on inclusivity because it’s the hottest thing on the market right now.
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No but I’m saying that the idea that “you shouldn’t use X in your products unless you’re up to these standards” is approaching the problem in entirely the wrong angle.
Having gay characters represented in a neutral/positive in a product, regardless of how morally questionable it’s other aspects are is fine, but it doesn’t excuse the other aspects, ergo it would make sense to not equate these 2 aspects.
If Blizzard products had lackluster representation 20 years ago, that’s more on the general cultural status quo, rather than on Blizzard itself.
Well they’ve been making bank off the straights for years - if they are including other demographics to make bank from it sounds like a good day for equality.
Fair enough… it’s unfortunate he is using the exact same arguments as some of the outright homophobic posts and threads.
If a major character is LGBT, then it’s forced… if a minor character is LGBT, then it’s inconsequential and pandering.
In other words the OP is leaving pretty much no way to introduce LGBT characters, without it being open to criticism, despite claiming to be LGBT…just saying.