Actual Patch notes we need

[Izvunzemna-ravencrest]

@Procharger-ragnaros

the main cancer is combustion now in pvp.

Also mages have 3 shields which absorb like 13-15K health (their maximum is 30K so thats 50% absorb shields + other effects on them)

[Bläckhänd-kazzak]

@Izvunzemna-ravencrest

@Procharger-ragnaros

the main cancer is combustion now in pvp.

Also mages have 3 shields which absorb like 13-15K health (their maximum is 30K so thats 50% absorb shields + other effects on them)

Don’t forget about cauterize, alter time and night fae seed

[Dainty-defias-brotherhood]

Tbh I only think we need one note:

Covenants and everything related to them are now disabled in PvP.

[Dispozedx-dalaran]

1% class representation, dhs must be a nightmare for you atm.

[Broxiz-blackrock]

firemage main detected lol

[Terapeuten-daggerspine (Terapeuten)]

Nice list. Mage main confirmed since there is nothing about combustion.

Majority of the suggested “fixes” are among the dumbest nonsensical things ive seen as for balancing. Good luck!

[Narcind-ragnaros (Narcind)]

@Terapeuten-daggerspine

Mage main confirmed since there is nothing about combustion

People who say this just don’t really understand how mages (or combustion) work, since combustion is not the problem

The problem is infernal cascade and rune of power

[Ridtur-outland (Ridtur)]

@Maganas-chromaggus

Evoke Spirit (Balance): Can now only cast a maximum of one Starsurge and Full Moon per cast and Evoke Spirit full Moon damage reduced by 35%.
Evoke Spirit (Feral): Can now only cast a maximum of two Ferocious Bites per Cast

It’s not called “Evoke Spirit”, it’s called “Convoke the Spirits”.

The correct fix is:
Convoke the Spirits will no longer cast Ferocious Bite, Full Moon and Starsurge until the last 2 seconds of the channel, and will also never cast more than 3 Ferocious Bites (Feral) and 2 Starsurges (Balance).

@Maganas-chromaggus

Turbo Fist (pvp talent): Now makes Fist of Fury unable to be cast while moving

Turbo First should just make Fists stun again, and not cause parries. It should however not be cast-while-moving.

@Maganas-chromaggus

Whirling Dragon punch: Damage reduced by 20% on pvp targets

Nerf RSK one shots instead.

@Maganas-chromaggus

Shaman:
Elemental Shaman mastery: Overload now deals 40% damage down from 80%.
Chain Harvest: Damage and healing decreased by 30% in pvp
Restoration Shaman: Mana cost of all spells increased by 30%

Missing something for Windfury RNG madness.

@Maganas-chromaggus

Rogue:
Sap duration decreased to 5 seconds

@Maganas-chromaggus

Grapple weapon: Range reduced to Melee Range down from 30 yards

Yeah, no.

@Maganas-chromaggus

Warrior
Intervene: Now redirects 50% of the damage dealt to the target.

Intervene should only redirect one ability, not everything for 6 seconds.

@Maganas-chromaggus

Restoration Shaman: Mana cost of all spells increased by 30%

Too much of a nerf.

@Maganas-chromaggus

Priest
Mind Games: Healing Absorption and damage reduced by 50% in PVP
Thought-steal: Duration reduced to 10 seconds

Disc needs slightly lower mana costs as well.

@America-chromaggus

Hunters: Resonating Arrow debuff that allows them to still attack a target for 3 seconds when they leave the Resonating Arrow area should be removed. Allowing for targets to strategically place themselves. Outside of that Arcane Shot could use a nerf of 10-15% due to it being magical damage and hitting for close to 5k.

This would completely destroy any and all MM comps.

@America-chromaggus

Mage: Should have Pyroblast damage reduced by 20% in pvp

Combustion/Rune/Infernal Cascade interactions need to be nerfed.

Missing nerfs:

• Mage: Combustion/Rune of Power/Conduits
• Enhance: Windfury one-shot chain procs
• WW: RSK one-shot kills
• WW: Overall damage nerfs (nerfing Whirling Dragon Punch is the wrong way to do it)
• DH: The Hunt initial damage nerf (move it to the dot)
• Feral: Eye of Symmetry and Berserk no longer stack
• Feral & Balance: Regrowth nerfed by 10%
• Subletly: Conduit Cloaked in Shadows massively nerfed/removed

Missing buffs/misc changes:

• Podtender: Cannot be buffed nor healed, and also lasts 3 seconds longer
• Survival: DPS increase
• MM: Aimed Shot permanent cast time reduction/cast-while-moving mechanics
• Feral: DPS increase (move damage from bites → bleeds and increase overall DPS, re-introduce powershifting and move slow to Shred)
• Warlock: Minor survivability buffs (and when I say minor, I mean it, by removing the top DPSers and the one-shots Warlocks will flourish as is)
• DH: overall DPS buffs
• DK: buffs (don’t even know what to buff tbh, probably UH overall DPS, I guess)

Obviously I’m biased towards Feral 'cus that’s what I play.

[Terapeuten-daggerspine (Terapeuten)]

@Narcind-ragnaros

@Terapeuten-daggerspine

Mage main confirmed since there is nothing about combustion

People who say this just don’t really understand how mages (or combustion) work, since combustion is not the problem

The problem is infernal cascade and rune of power

uhm no. Combustion is most def. the problem. When you have people playing double fire at top 20 and saying “DUDE COMBUSTION IS SO BROKEN”, and when people at my mmr (2k-2.2) can kill someone flat out because combustion, then it is the problem.

In case i didnt make it clear - combustion is the problem.

[Narcind-ragnaros (Narcind)]

@Terapeuten-daggerspine

uhm no. Combustion is most def. the problem. When you have people playing double fire at top 20 and saying “DUDE COMBUSTION IS SO BROKEN”, and when people at my mmr (2k-2.2) can kill someone flat out because combustion, then it is the problem.

In case i didnt make it clear - combustion is the problem.

Yeah alright you clearly just don’t understand how fire works

What would you do to combustion to nerf it, if you don’t mind me asking?

[Thedarksteel-defias-brotherhood]

So,you say whats needs to be done,and you even say the % !!!

Man,you are a true game designer,its hard to believe you dont work at blizzard!!!

Congratualtions!

[Payidár-twisting-nether]

Actually noone playing codemn on pvp already lower damage than execute if codemn dmg nerf %25 will be codemn dmg like slam dmg lol
But yea interneve can be %50 damage direct

[Deadandlivin-stormscale]

Let me guess.
Your main is a mage?

[Praetorian-sylvanas (Praetorian)]

@Cutîepie-stormscale

I genuinely think you have absolutely no clue how to balance at all

The truth is, you not need a clue how balance work, all you need to play the game, when you play 4 hours straight and meet ONLY same classes and setups over and over, one thing is clear, they are OP and they cry for nerfs

Like flies swarm around the p00p thats how players swarm around those low skill meta classes, when someone is OP clear inticator is: alot of people gonna play it, so basicly blizzard just need to monitor participation percentage of each class in arena to automaticly know which one need buff which need nerf. Such a approach will very fast enforce fairplay in game.

Remember playing meta = low skill = not worth of respect = not worth to be displayed on torumament = sight of broken game = better not win = evry monkey can be good meta player

[Klárasragexd-dun-modr]

Even Maganas forgets about Hunter Survival.

Fix hunter survival! Casting pet should be reduced!

[Chiz-stormscale]

@Maganas-chromaggus

Intervene: Now redirects 50% of the damage dealt to the target.

This would be a buff for warrior’s. They wont get oneshot anymore after they soak the full deal.

It should be something like: Intervene now reduces the target’s dmg taken by 25%.

[Temtem-ravencrest (Temtem)]

@Chiz-stormscale

@Maganas-chromaggus

Intervene: Now redirects 50% of the damage dealt to the target.

This would be a buff for warrior’s. They wont get oneshot anymore after they soak the full deal.

It should be something like: Intervene now reduces the target’s dmg taken by 25%.

You guys realize that the interesting part about intervene is soaking high value attacks and especially CC from others? Making it just a damage reduction would be incredibly lame. Duration’s the issue, nothing else.

[Blindsapboom-outland]

@Maganas-chromaggus

Intervene: Now redirects 50% of the damage dealt to the target.

Just make the intervene work like on wotlk and make it outplayable - make it soak one thing. It enables cool things like Shiving the target of Intervene so i. ex. hunter can still land cc.

@Maganas-chromaggus

Turbo Fist (pvp talent): Now makes Fist of Fury unable to be cast while moving

kappa

@Maganas-chromaggus

Sap duration decreased to 5 seconds

Kappa. Rogue has other problems which make him toxic - i. ex. Vanish that is unbreakable. Make it breakable again and it won’t be that obnovious of others to play against if you want to nerf something with rogue.

@Maganas-chromaggus

Healing Hands (Retribution): Word of Glory healing is increased by 25% based on the targets missign health down from 70%

Cool. Paladins don’t have any defensives against 5 minute bubble and Absorb shield which is useless and pops second after using it. WOG is currently strong as hell, but gutting it with 60+ % nerf is kinda retarded.

@Maganas-chromaggus

Sacrolashs: Now reduces PVP targets movement speed by 10% down from 50%

Can we just make it not permanent instead of gutting it to being unplayable lol

[Shadyknight-kazzak]

HELLO MAGES
3 shields absorbtion reduced by 50% in pvp
Cumbastion dmg reduced by 30%
And about rogue reduce max kidney duration to 4 sec or give it a 45 sec base cooldown

[Elijeal-silvermoon]

A lot of geniuses offering balance suggestions here blizzard. Hire them quickly.
/s