I was going to ask if that is a thing in other countries? Here it is not that uncommon for people to just say âLets go to IKEA todayâ not to buy something specifically but justâŠas a kinda family outing/group activity. Walk around a bit, then get some food at it etc.
As a Renâdorei, I am of course a citizen of the (Twisting)Netherlands.
May I introduce you to our frikandel (Minced meat sausage) and our oliebollen(deep fried doughtnut balls)? Itâs so good, you wonât even notice the never-ending downpour or that the sea is trying to kill us, always.
Iâll have some kapsalon instead, thanks
Puts a smalahove in your mailbox
Penal labour assembling Billys for the showrooms.
Letâs go camping at Ullared
Iâm genuinely sorry if my post upset you. I believe your feelings on the matter are genuine, and it wasnât my intention to cause anyone distress or to present my personal feelings, caused partially by the circumstances of my life, as objective fact.
National identity is a sensitive subject â perhaps too sensitive for this forum, in hindsight â and however people feel about theirs is generally a result of events that happened through the entire life, not a single factor. I believe it holds for both you and me.
If you wish, we can talk about it on Discord and perhaps find some common ground, and stay in touch on different sides of the border. My Discord account name is linneris.
What the actual⊠moin, thats it. Everything else makes you look like a tourist!!
If I ever visit gekĂ„s and see a film crew, Iâm sprinting in the opposite direction. I donât want to end up on TV awkwardly explaining my choice in footwear set to dansband.
Seriously, thatâs a fever nightmare to me.
Thatâs the point!! x)
I think that a great many of us can understand your position and perspective, Lintian, even if our circumstances differ. I wonât go into detail further than that since youâve asked us not to, but I will expand on my own situation.
First and foremost I would also label myself as a citizen of the world - a person, not a nationality. Thatâs partly because of the cynicism that comes from being a queer person who lives in a country colloquially known as Terf Island.
Itâs absolutely not the result of propaganda to take issue with your homeâs social and political shortcomings. Your lived experience is completely valid.
I think, at-least from my own point of view, there is nothing wrong with feeling a since of belonging or pride of your heritage and country on its own. *
Just as is there is nothing wrong with the opposite.
However, it does become an issue and a problem if said feeling of pride becomes a feeling of superiority(Not just Iâm proud to be Swedish because I like Sweden, but âIâm proud to be Swedish, Sweden is better than everyoneâ), or if you start to belittling and lowkey attacking people for not sharing those feelings.
*(There are other problematic aspects of this too of course, such as if said country is involved in bad stuff and the proudness is because of that, but thats another territory).
what about pride in your cuisine
Not if youâre british.
(I do hope this is also understood as a joke. I love the brits honestly)
This isnât Waterloo. Yield
I can acknowledge that the United Kingdom has made some exceptional contributions to culture, the arts, and so on throughout its history, while also despairing at many of its modern social values that are directly antagonistic toward minority demographics â they donât cancel each other out, but one is more relevant to me than the other.
Love beansânâsausage on toast, by the way. Meal of queens.
Iâm in a very similar spot. I like being Swedish, I love alot of our contributions to the world, parts of our culture and traditions and alot of every day life.
But I am also equally saddened and appalled by the rising hatred and the bad stuff also being done, and the constant growth of populism and increase of nationalism and regression of our open-minded and accepting culture.
All I have to add to the cuisine discussion is that we certainly like our paprika.
I love terrifying foreigners online, itâs true. The banana/pineapple pizza isnât even bad.
Itâs not even the worst one. The worst pizza I saw was âTuna with minced meat, chocolate, eggs & onionsâ.