Sometimes leaving is fine, when you don’t time it, and the group has wiped a few times. However, some people leave keys, whenever they want with 0 repercussion and 0 morals. They just log out randomly. It’s especially annoying, when they are the problem themselves. At this point there should be seasonal bans and reward-lockouts for disruptive behaviour like this. Apply this to solo shuffle too. It’s not reasonable to waste people’s time due to lack of proper punishment and moderation
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I agree it’s annoying but seasonal bans i do not agree upon.
However!
What about make a ragequitters pool where all these types of players will end up in?
They can only see parties in the looking for dungeon tool who have the same status as they do?
Make it a progressive system where people who leave / disconnect on purpose have a point system where it gets progressively worse for them to find new groups that have the same status as they do?
Abit like some games do the same with other “competitive” games, like shooters or vs fighting.
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Thats a great idea and may stop some people leaving keys.
Can you explain how this would be implemented without potentially impacting people who have a legitimate reason for leaving a key?
So you’re the arbiter of whats reasonable?
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Please explain, Your Honor, what you consider “reasonable” and how would you make the judgement? 
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I mean you’re not gonna be out on the first strike. Nobody has a legit reason to have griefed 30 keys. I’m not talking about simply leaving. I mean people, who really just grief keys constantly. If a moderator sees that this behaviour is frequent, then they should ban them from any ranked content like M+ or rated pvp and remove all the seasonal achievements with the rewards. As said, no issue with leaving, if a group fails hard multiple times, but if a group is doing fine, I think it should be punished.
So how does the system distinguish between a leaver that leaves due to an emergency at home and one that does it for griefing?
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Train an A.I. to do this and then have questionnable cases reviewed by customer support. I don’t think there is a “hardcode” solution
So potentially this could make mistakes and punish people incorrectly?
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“Customer support” teehee.
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Yeah…
Don’t call us, we will call you
Only intentional griefing is reportable.
I don’t see any benefit with this proposed change. Every single person leaving a key would end up reported. You might as well change the rules to say you will be held hostage in keys no matter what and be done with it.
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Yes just like the reporting system for bad language can also do mistakes. Mistakes in punishment are not a reason to not have rules.
It’s like saying irl that we shouldn’t have laws, because some people get treated unfairly and prosecuted wrongly.
So its ok if occasionally we put someone in jail for 20 years when they are innocent?
Thos people deservedly get compensation when they are released. Are blizz gonna give people gametime when they are banned unfairly?
No, but it’s not a reason to not have the laws and police. I don’t wanna insult you, but I think I put you on block, because you’re just typing random nonsense
You put me on block because you didnt like what i was saying the last time you got involved in a thread with this topic.
You cannot put something in place that can punish people without cause and as many times as this topic comes up, NO ONE has yet to suggest a foolproof way to do it.
I think they could make it a bit more reasonable.
4 account unique people reporting, can be written off for being “soar grapes”.
8 people(2 parties). Ok. Coincidence.
12 people… well unless all of the m+ community is conspiring to get you, I think there starting to be a problem with the said player…
I rarely leave keys but sometimes you’re just not going to complete it. If by default it becomes reportable you’re opening M+ up to a whole new hell. There is no way they can go through the number of reports this will generate manually.
Every leaver will just automatically be reported, regardless of whether the group is capable or incapable of completing that key on time or even over time.
Personally I don’t feel that brings anything positive to the table. Nobody likes leavers, they are frustrating but not all leavers are unjustified either.
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How do you know it’s ‘unreasonable leaving’? Maybe they got DCed.
I had a pug key fail recently because the tank (apparently) left with altF4, one of the dps said ‘oh well’ hearthed and left the group, and then the tank reappeared and apologised for the DC. Who was it who trashed that key? Not the tank.
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Because sometimes a healer dies, then respawns, stands still for around 10 seconds and logs out. I’m not saying everyone should get immediately punished, but if someone leaves every 30% of the keys they join and get reported, it should trigger an investigation