This is why the PVP in WoW is a joke.
You literally have a bunch of fake PVPers roleplaying as PVPers using addons and macros that handhold them through everything.
There should be NO addons or macros in PVP. This is FAILED game design.
WoW is anti-PVP and literally supports ingame cheating. This is not a game of real PVP. If you think this is PVP, you’re delusional. I’ve never seen a game with faker PVP than this one.
People should be able to play a mode and KNOW they’re on the same footing as their opponents. But no, they have all these outside programs/macros carrying them through everything. In some cases literally pressing one button over and over to do their rotation. This is not PVP, this is fake news.
The success of WoWs PVE is the only reason PVP this bad has been allowed to exist.
If you use addons and macros in PVP, sorry, but you’re cheating someone who doesn’t use that stuff. You have a massive advantage.
And don’t say “But you can use those addons too so it is fair” NO. If i for a moment have to go OUTSIDE the game, they screwed up the design.
Your game is badly designed for PVP, and none of it can be taken seriously by extension.
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Obligatory: “Git gud”
But yeah, if you want to be ‘good’ at PvP you need a minor in computer science, it seems whoever is able to program and configure their software/interface/add-ons/widgets/macro/scripts/auras/voodoo’s/mitsubushi’s has a major advantage.
It doesn’t really feel like playing a video game as much as software engineering.
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Mate, its worst then you think :d wait till you discover about scripts, autokick, almost fully automated gameplay ect.
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idk man if you cba using a macro to focus target poly, counter spell or whatever or arena 1,2,3 or mouse overs. Then thats on you 
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I feel like blizzard needs to take a stance on addons as it’s a growing issue.
Either have their own client to manage addons and disallow third party addons. Or block them from any kind of competitive area. Both pve/pvp. Maybe altogether.
The difference between someone using weak aura and other addons is massive.
I do think simple macros should be allowed though. No scripts however.
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By macros do you mean normal macros like arena123 poly/interrupt etc. or do you mean macros that are doing stuff that macros should not be allowed to do, like the macro that was recently made public, which only allows interrupts to go off, while your target is casting a spell?
Pver´s using macros too?
i dont agree with it.
Weak Aura, tmw, and Team Ability Tracker Shouldnt exist in Pvp (maybe omnibar too)
everything else is Fine
and when it comes to macros, it´s just a skill issue, and let me tell you a secret
if you remove Macros from the Game, script bot players have even a bigger advantage over a Normal player, so the answer is no
Macros are nice and once you’ve learned them, you don’t want to be without them, imagine u have to click your target when u want to cc him everytime separately, or when u want to kick someone
just learn how to use macros, it´s a skill issue at this point.
I’ve been away for some time, so could you kindly enlighten me? Didn’t the kickbot get blocked already, or is it back? Found some russian warrior in shuffle that only kicked at 95-99% cast bar so was kinda sus, since he went dying for free behind a pillar every game.
Then I tested with mass dispel into nothing and he kicked that too. So are kickbots/macros back then in some capacity? Ty.
I think it got worse. Today a lame dh was able to dodge meld a HOJ from the hpala and would always glimpse clones on him even though arena macros were being used this got obvious when you try to clone his healer he would save the glimpse… ofc the kickbot is a given then as it was impossible to juke by anyone in the SS.
This got to a point where people just do it balatantly at all brackets because it seems there are no consequences?
Disgusting, imagine paying for a bot in a game with barely any players left, and in doing so contribute to destroying what’s left of said game.
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Macro’s are provided by the game itself. You don’t require an additional set-up on your computer besides WoW, anyone can log-in and make a macro without having to download anything at all.
Everything needed to play the game on any level should be self contained within the game. No third party software or programs should be needed.
At least it should be disabled in rated PvP if you want to lower the barrier to entry and keep ‘normies’ engaged who just want to play a video game and not be an IT savvy developer.
The kickbot macro that was made public by Bicmex was fixed and everyone using it got banned, but there’s probably a lot more stuff you can do with advanced macros, that are against the rules, so there might be another one out there specifically for interrupts, there defo are some more that help ppl with rotational scripts.
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nice joke buddy
have you opened up a M+ or raiding stream or video?
where everything mobs and bosses do is scripted?
and those people have twice as many addons and weakauras telling them where to EVEN STAND
lol
people just don’t like PvP because they can lose much easier
and if you don’t feel like a winner, you don’t want to play
simple as that
you can spend a few hours to figure out a mythic boss and how it works exactly
you cannot gain the knowledge to beat the best pvp players in an hour from scratch
little Jimmy did not pop a monthly wow subscription to be killed off, Jimmy wants to be a glorious champion, so Jimmy defeats the evil villains in his infinitely repeatable M+ keys
take Plunderstorm for example
it was greatly hated by a lot of PvE mains, because they could get killed easily and lose
were there addons there?
no
some other forum sections are infested with PvE main threads about Plunderstorm noting things like “anxiety” “stress” etc from playing it, because of someone being able to kill them
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i dont know what it have anything to do with my post.
No, just lower the amount of defensive spells and micro cd´s.
Good or bad, blizzard didnt invented addons.
Consumers invented addons.
Give people a forest. First they would dance and wonder of it, than rip it apart and make shacks
Let me make this clear :
I hate PVEers. I think they ruin games that could otherwise be amazing if they didn’t get in the way with their safe zones etc.
I say what i say because the PVP on here is not really PVP. It is literally the fakest PVP i’ve ever seen, it is about as close to it being a bot without it actually being a bot. That isn’t PVP.
It is because i take PVP seriously i call WoW PVP a joke. It is a mockery of PVP, a complete bastardization of it.
The PVE is just as bad tbh, but atleast it isn’t at the expense of someone else like in PVP. That is why i have a problem with it here, but in PVE i really could care less.
PVEers are just cowards. They don’t like what it means if they lose in PVP, to them it is a sign they’re inferior in some way, and so it is a threat to their delusion that they are sufficient as they are.
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It’s not exactly cheating but not far from it.
All addons that track enemy spells should be banned
All addons that provide awareness should be banned
I don’t mind minor addons like those used by RP players.
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Wait so the addon the literally tells me a SHEEP or whatever CC is being cast on me is cheating XD.
FYI I agree addons should be removed.
Some macro’s need to go as well imo.
I agree to an extent because I don’t think all macros and all addons should be banned but autokicks macros and any addon that intelligently tell people what to press should definitely not play a role in Rated PvP.
I don’t have any issue with addons like that provide information like Details, BetterBlizzPlates, BigDebuffs, OmniBar, OmniCC, GladiatorlosSA2 and WeakAura… however I do think that it’s unfortunate that we need so many addons to read what’s going on in the battlefield, it’s just overwhelming.
I say that’s cheating, would be harder to notice without that addon.
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