[ADRP] What is wrong with Stormwind RP?

Argent Dawn
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all of you

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I do, but I keep getting FPS lag there.

Well, it -is- a market. In random RP you usually have to sell your character in order to making the other person interested in RPing a second time with you. From thereon you can build things up in a more subtle manner.

Anyway, can we let these threads die now? Make another pet peeve thread or something.

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selling character =/= background infodump

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Alliance RP needs more undead. :ghost:

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no its not

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Let me eat my popcorn in peace, Tired Ortellus. :popcorn:

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Truly the new [forum fun] plague.

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I find that this one at least promotes some sort of discussion as opposed to thinly veiled ERP invites of the would you date sort of threads.

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The format? Sometimes. This one in particular? We have a ‘nag about Stormwind’ thread every other week, and when we don’t we do it in the undying PP or in unpopular opin- oh, right.

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Still feels more productive than would you X the person above tbh.

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Yes but just because A is a little bit better than B doesn’t mean that A isn’t god-awful.

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I still quite enjoy these threads, though more discussion of how the problems listed can be fixed/responded to would be gucci

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You should also bear in mind that the House of Nobles do still govern the happenings of Stormwind, although the other expansions haven’t really incoperated the nobility of Stormwind instead it seems they’re focused on anime super heroes and villains in the WOW narrative department. Though agreed, the constant noble houses are tiresome especially when they don’t produce any valuable roleplay.

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Out of interest, how would you define ‘valuable roleplay’? I imagine it means something different depending on who you ask.

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When I get paid for roleplay.

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From the most part of what I’ve seen, on the topic of “noble house guilds” based in Stormwind, there is little effort going into producing initiative or interesting story archs. They mainly hang out in Stormwind till either the members get bored or the GM/Officers do. Overall the roleplay that is created is not of value due to it not actually producing anything of worth at the end of the day, memorable experiences etc.

Edit: What initiative and campaigns I do see have little relevance to being part of a household except for the occasional mount and blade butterlord feast.

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This sounds nice as an idea, until you start thinking about details.
How do you create such event? Where will it be based? How will you promote it? How will you attract the type of people you want and not type you don´t want? How will you even make sure that those guildless people who will come will be searching for a guild and they will join yours?

If goal of Random Military Guild 268 is to get new people and they pick event option, they need to solve all of these issues. Forums are visited only by minority of people and while many are on Argent Archives, how many players visit them often (and search for events during their visits)?
To reach those masses, you need to do it in-game. But how do you do an in-game event outside of populated areas? Sure, you can do something like Games of Redridge or RP-PvP campaign, but I doubt people come to those events with mentality of “I am going to find myself a guild there”. In fact, my experience from big events is that people often find out about them because someone from their guild/community told them about it.
In fact, I would argue that if guildless people arrive to these big events, they are just as likely to get recruited by Random House Guild 57 as they are by your guild, because it doesn´t matter that you hosted something when Lord Honhonhon le Bonbon and his 2 guards got to talk to the newbie first.

So you need something more spontaneous, where you can reach out to players who may be new to RP or have not found a guild yet while also not making it saturated with experienced roleplayers. But you can do something like this only in populated areas. That newbie isn´t going to look at every zone in his TRP3 and scan for roleplayers and then fly halfway across the world to see what are those 50 people doing in Wetlands.
Which means that you need to do it in populated area, but there are really just few of them and only one has population big enough to justify doing an event that is for community instead of your guild (after all, it´s far less stressful to do guild event than open event, not to mention that you aren´t risking that you will get lollers, ERP guilds and so on while doing so): Stormwind.
Which just so happens to be the same place where people recruit anyway, while also being the most likely place where your event can be disturbed by all kinds of people. So why going through all that trouble when you can simply do casual RP while recruiting and get similar (maybe even better, because people won´t have illusions why are you doing what you are doing) results.

Also, there´s that whole problem with AD´s population being unbelievably disloyal. Coming from private RP servers where communities are much smaller, it´s quite baffling to me how people can leave guilds based on small misunderstandings or when they find guild whose theme fits their character more.
If someone told me: “Dorlas, you angry piece of s**t, if you made this huge event, your guild would get 3 dedicated RPers out of it.”, I would do it. But on AD, it´s far more likely that House Schpunkunkunkunkunken would get 3 RPers out of my event, Slightlyburnedgopherfur Baggage Train would get 2 and my guild would get 3, 2 of whom would leave in 2 months and third would stay for half a year before coming up with his own guild idea and leaving.
That´s not worth the effort when I could get 3 people from one day in Cathedral Square with similar results.

Rant over (and looking at my post, I am reaching Brigante levels of text walls…please, send help)

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Honestly I think it can be summed up in the following:

(1) Everyone gets a fair chance.
(2) People have a sort of ‘siege mentality’ (as I’ve had it described to me as) where one side thinks the other side hates them for some reason, and it spirals out of control from there.

I maintain that a lot of people that :poop: on Stormwind as a place to roleplay the most regularly really do have unrealistic expectations of RP where none of the players have some OOC communication on what’s acceptable.

Just take everything with a pinch of salt and relax really.

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It’s Alliance, duh…

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I guess I won’t deny that I started this thread just to poke fun at the modern trend of posting these weird threads about What is wrong with X more than anything, lel.

Originally this also had some rant of mine but I decided to move it to the problem with Alliance RP in order not to split the discussion and shiz.