Sounds juicy, where do I get the full story, to avoid derailment?
You can find out about it with a DoW1 participant of your choosing! Jack Asheton, Brigante, Oakley, Seventh Legion’s Theon and Neresa know about it, there’s probably a good bunch of people. I can’t say much about the initial act of it ooc, we had some issues with them when it came to the consequences, but it’s really not worth kicking up now, especially since everything since then died down and has been very neatly resolved on an ooc basis (kudos to Reltorin for actually speaking to me about it!).
It was just incredibly shady IC and, in my own personal opinion, the opposite of beneficial for Velf RP.
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Good lord, have I gotten a lot of hearsay or chinese whispers from that little event. ![:crazy_face:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/crazy_face.png?v=6" ":crazy_face:")
It was meant to be a good 'ol False Flag, but sorta fell apart due to a perfect storm of a few things going wrong in just such a way we sorta lost control of the situation.
A mix of light metagaming, a guildie misunderstanding instructions, someone going crazy with their tech, and then some arguments over just how thoroughly you could wipe away traces of magic, and everything turned into a big 'oll mess.
Eventually it got so confusing, we all dropped it and ignored it.
What confused it further was that, iirc, there were -three- layers of conspiracy and lying to what happened. Some of which still haven’t been revealed.
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I mean, people could have asked for source + info from the organizer but that was out of the question for some arcane reason.
Even after it was stated that we can go on our separate ways and do our own things we were getting bounties issued by the Marshal’s worg cult and whatnot.
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Yeah. It was just a mess. But its a shame, as if there had been a bit more cooperation and such, we coulda had some great RP. WIth people trying to nail the Hellbound with hard evidence they were basically criminals, but the Hellbound being all Men in Black and wiping the evidence.
But Marshal Von Worginton leapt in without evidence, started yelling about us totally being outlaws and already being under arrest warrants, even though there was no evidence besides a fragmentary accusation. 
And well, then you had a guildie break an OOC promise to not spread the word, for the sake of keeping up the RP. And things escalated from there.
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I’d rather just rp mine as a Helf and be done with it. I’m not good with more dark themes, I suck with em.
Myeah I seem to recall an AA story being a dog whistle for certain Alliance players to crack down, despite the contents of said story being nothing more than private, internal musings. Bit rubbish when the meta insight goes that far.
Bit of a mess, but I’m not half as sour about it nowadays as I was back then. At least the RP/PvP was legit most of the time.
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Yeah. Your story.
That’s what soured the Hellbound players. You posted a story about internal musings, and suddenly -everyone- knew what had happened, and began hunting us over it. Without anyone asking about what they’d even be able to find.
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Actually, there was a far great reach-around, which consisted of the Sun Hawks telling the Knights Gryphon what had happened, that’s how a select few leaders on Alliance side knew of it- and it was entirely legit. The Sun Hawks could have been lying for all we knew, but they do have a rather honorable overall relationship with the Knights Gryphon- but the whole thing is too far into the past and surely not part of the original thread, either, so we might as well let it rest.
Yeah, it’s basically rumourmongering. Too bad it became both IC and OOC with a hefty mixup of both for the sake of the Good Guy vs. Bad Guy rhetoric.
Glad it’s all over and done now.
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You can try directly speaking with us as well. People seem to forget that is an option.
Considering that guy is one who hasn’t RP’d with us in around 4 years. A guy who we helped support when it came to his first few events if I remember right. When he left to take over a guild we wished him all the best. In return he did his best to tempt members away from the guild, one of his members tried to talk me into it too, and now stabs us in the back any chance he gets on this weird masked Warlock he prowls the forums on. Overall a nice guy.
His go to is that we don’t accept consequences. Considering Ilvanesta was dismantled due to consequences it is a little odd. We have stories on the AA that detail the storyline of the guild and how things came to be. If you don’t like our stories then that is fair, we only ask you let us get on with our RP respectfully as we would for whoever else. I’ve always said if people had issues or wish for further clarity on something they are more than welcome to get in contact with me, probably a lot more productive than hurling abuse on the forums. And ultimately if a guild is truly bad people will come to learn of it themselves, they don’t need others telling them.
Forgive the derailment, thought it fair I respond.
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It existing.
In all honesty, what has made me absolutely despise every Void Elf roleplayer at sight is the sheer arrogance they show OOC when confronted with IC consequences.
A good example is the early few months of Void Elves BARGING into the Cathedral, despite there being obvious reasons why they shouldn’t.
Also, every void elf roleplayer is unpleasantly edgy.
The bad edgy. Not the good kind.
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This is fun for me
More like two and a half
Correct.
False and false. Not that I care about the former; for the latter I may have taken the p!ss (another ban inc) but anyone who joined did so of their free will (inb4 gun to the head).
I honestly have no idea who it was, this is new to me lol
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and now stabs us in the back any chance he gets on this weird masked Warlock he prowls the forums on.[/quote]
Et tu, et tu
I am, thank you.
Very much so, yes.
[quote=“Salrathin-argent-dawn, post:173, topic:52083”]
I’ve always said if people had issues or wish for further clarity on something they are more than welcome to get in contact with me, probably a lot more productive than hurling abuse on the forums. [/quote]
While you were always the more level headed one, ultimately the bridges that were burned back in the day were due to communiction and a lack of a decent resolution leading to a one-sided farce.
Indeed, and around two years of being inactive just goes to show that your guild is a testament to that.
Anyhow I’m probably gonna get sent to the shadow realm for another month or two, bye folks and don’t believe the children of the lie
Considering we don’t actively recruit and have a small tight knit group which we are pretty content with I think we are fine in that regard. We also do our part for the wider Void Elf community, who have been great.
Anyway, I am not about to get dragged into a silly forum argument with you, Zarenthal. It’s pointless. If anyone wants a productive chat then reach out to me ingame.
Enough derailing on my part for one day.
In a way, I’m impressed that it took almost 200 posts before going seriously into mud flinging. (On the subject of that bombing thing, before you ask, I can answer on what we saw/did IC; OOC, I’ve no bloody idea, wasn’t involved.)
Back on topic, I suppose one thing that surprised me with Void Elves (and bear in mind it was when they were just released, it’s perhaps not true any longer) is how much you can often feel that it’s an Alliance player behind; the almost fanatic “the Alliance can do no wrong” attitude, two days after being welcomed in, was very strange to me. (One year later, the attitude makes much more sense! It’s really on the first days.)
Apart that, they’re an interesting race to explore all the Void, Old God, “what does loyalty means?”, consequences of exil, etc. themes.
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Cut yourself upon me, stump-ear. I am the blade upon which humanity will expire.
There. Wouldn’t want to be the odd one out.
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I honestly feel like I’ve been missing out, I’ve only seen about a handful of truly edgy ones. Tell me where they hide, TELL ME.
In the dying light of the waning moons, and where sorrow grows in the absence of flowers. Where hope springs eternal, yet is laced with sorrows of yore tragedies.
That is where you find us.
Also if you have a neat anime background, we give you a free t-shirt.
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As elves do, but in my experience, the non elves are quite happy to exclude them too due to OOC dislike of the concept bleeding into a poorly disguised IC reason with way too much passion behind it.
Harley Quinn fetish roleplay about as innocently offensive in its portrayal of mental unwellness as Blizzard’s general Noble Savage™ trope.
I try to play a good gal but it’s hard when every human judges a book by its cover. Irony.
To be honest, edgy is one of buzzwords that people use constantly and it´s pointless to even argue about it.
Void elves are a race that had to leave their homeland and are constantly hearing whispers from eldritch monstrosities from another dimension. That by itself counts as edgy in minds of some people, so if you try to portray any of that, you are instantly an edgelord.
On the other hand, I have no doubt that the same people would be willing to complain aboit Void elf who behaves like normal person, because it´s obviously badRP and they should RP their Void elf like an actual Void elf instead of high/blood elf.