It is just my opinion. You don’t have to like it. I take him over the disaster we have now any day.
Not even Sylvanas likes him and she is ultra kween.
And who could blame her? Dictating to her, from Dalaran - a Human City, as to who she admits into the ranks of the Farstriders.
Sylvanas, as Ranger General had some good qualities about her. 1 of them - she could smell hypocrisy.
We always hear that from the most rude of people.
It starts with “It’s my opinion!” then goes into “I’m passionate” then becomes toxic, in that “My ideas are the ONLY ones that work!”
I am not rude. I protect lore integrity of the blood elves.
She totally would if she wasn’t undead. Like the Windrunners and Sunstriders were always the leaders of their people.
No - she didn’t.
He started dictating to her, who she admitted to the Farstriders - when he was spending more time in Dalaran.
Sylvanas held respect for Anasterian as her mother did.
When she was given the mantle of Ranger General, she did not take kindly to being told who she can omit into the Farstriders, by a Prince, who lived in a Human City.
He desired her hand; however that feeling was absolutely not mutual.
Seeing the fate of Kael’thas, in Revendreth has perfectly summed up Sylvanas’ feelings towards him. She didn’t like him
Yeah, I’ve heard that one before as well, except change “Blood” to “Night.”
Engage in discussion and factual lore and not headcanon. If you don’t know the lore, look it up.
I want this.
Not this. Got it? I don’t see you critizise night elf fans because they want Tyrande and not Shandris.
You wouldn’t believe how critical I am of Night Elf fans in general…never mind just Tyrande and Shandris.
I’m very critical of people who push their agendas onto others, say they are the only ones right, and when they got questioned - play the victim card with “Waah waah, it’s my opinion! Waah waah, I’m passionate - that’s all!”
I don’t do victim cards at the best of times.
Night Elf fans and Sylvanas fans are two of the biggest sets of people who do this.
Just because Bob and walmart Elisande married doesen’t make them the legitemate leadership.
What the hell does that have to do with my point?
Your waffling crap
I just want the guy back I rooted for in Warcraft 3. Not his hamfisted replacement.
Well tough - it’s not going to happen any time soon, especially with Blizzard closing the rift between the Faillands and Azeroth.
I support them in wanting us to forget all about the previous expansion.
Maybe if she had never known Nathanos, Sylvanas would have considered married Kael’thas after all.
Without Nathanos around, Erevien might be right. Living Sylvanas would surely consider becoming the future queen leader of her people after all, even if she didn’t like Kael much. Even as a living being she was attracted to power after all.
So the Humans ruin the Blood Elf story again I guess 
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The current blood elf leaders are talentless hacks without lore or powers. Kael alone got more lore in Revendreth then Bob the last 15 years.
Notice how it is always humans the elves get teamed with. Never any other constellation. Shandris is victim of this too.
But that still wouldn’t have changed the fact that Kael’thas spent far more time in Dalaran.
It wouldn’t have changed the fact that Sylvanas and Lireesa held far more respect towards Anasterian because he was the active leader.
But Nathanos was around and Kael’thas truly had no right to tell her who she could omit to the Farstriders. Especially, with him living in Dalaran more than Silvermoon. An elf living in a human city doesn’t really have the grounds to tell the Ranger General of the Elves, she should sack a Human from service, because he’s a human.
EDIT: Also, Sylvanas could have still been Regent Lady of Quel’Thalas, if she had chosen to remain behind in Quel’Thalas whilst Kael’thas left with the Sunfury. No marriages would have been needed.
Again, I refer back to Kael’thas preferring Dalaran over Silvermoon for years. It’s why Kael’thas got the negative reception from his people, when he returned to Quel’Thalas. He was an absent Prince and no amount of trying to interpret the lore differently, will change that.
So what…? I personally, don’t care for Kael’thas anymore.
Neither you, nor me are right. It’s just our views.
That’s because Night Elves are with the Alliance and can’t think for themselves, beyond Tyrande making some decisions.
Besides, Shandris is just a “shove in, she’ll work” sort of character. That whole BFA Alliance campaign, Shandris could not have been more out-of-place.
Honestly, Blizzard should have just used the High Elves and Vereesa Windrunner. Far more interesting and far more history with the San’layn, than what they concocted for Shandris and Dreven.
EDIT 2: But again, Night Elf fan tears were just too strong. I get it, Burning Teldrassil upset the night elf fans, but to demand night elves in every patch and be involved with everything, then moan about it - well, you reap what you sow.
The people who accept the status quo of them being shoved aside for alliance elves get what they want. Cutscenes and stuff. Those who remember the blood elf Warcraft 3 campaign are ignored. If Blizzard stayed true to the highborne vs lowborne divide the typical racist elves would be alive and leaders. Like Elisande and Kael’thas. Apart from the visuals there is no difference between lor’themar and Vereesa.
Stay away from MMO Champion. They are especially hardcore over there.
But Kael’thas wasn’t racist, per say. He told Sylvanas to sack Nathanos, via a letter and she didn’t. He had no right or authority to do that as only Anasterian could have given the directive to her.
He had racism thrown AT him, but he wasn’t racist because even in the end - his army comprised of Blood Elves, Felbloods, Orcs and Demons, with a Demon Priestess saving his life.
Again, Sylvanas and the Forsaken - I don’t recall them ever aiming to be racist towards anyone. Hell, she even sent an ambassador to Stormwind to seek joining the Alliance. The Humans made the Forsaken into war-killing monsters, but they never started out like that. Which is why trying to do a “Kaldorei vs Forsaken” thing was just so wrong because it made no sense.
We literally only ever had 1 occurence where we had a small night elf vs forsaken and that was a night elf priestess vs dark ranger in the Worgen starting zone.
Elisande was racist but she lead her people for over 10,000 years and was part of the Highborne Elite, employed by Azshara. All of them were racists, even to their own kind (lowborne scum!)
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That’s true, but I think it was said Anasterian had plans to recall Kael from Dalaran very soon, because he knew his time was almost over, being old and frail even for an high elf (even if that was retconned later, because Lorash was way older than the 3000 years of Anasterian, and Lorash was still not old at all).
So if the Third War and Scourge invasion hadn’t happened, Anasterian would have recalled Kael in Silvermoon in order to introduce him to his people as their future leader, and in order to get him married and prepare him as the future King I guess. So it was going to happen anyway even if Kael stayed in Dalaran most of the time.
The Prince is still a royal family member so technically he had that power to order that even over the Ranger-General I guess, even if it was not very wise as a decision overall, because Nathanos as a ranger was indeed good and promising, so she did it anyway, other than being attracted by him. (something that was revealed later in the story though, originally the love element wasn’t present nor clear between them).
And Anasterian didn’t really stop that order of Kael because after all Humans were not really liked by the High Elf society, except for Alleria and the group who outright moved to Lordaeron and joined the Alliance forces, and the Magisters who were in the Kirin Tor. So the distrust was natural even back despite the choice of Sylvanas who, like her sisters, was actually more open to the Humans as Ranger-General.
And overall the Farstriders are quite selective as an organization…even today among the friendly races who are closer to the Blood Elves, like the Nightborne, or other close to nature like Tauren, we don’t really see Nightborne or Tauren members who are in the ranks of the Farstriders and trained by them after all…
We don’t know if Anasterian even knew because the letter was sent from Dalaran. He also didn’t challenge Sylvanas on the decision to bring Nathanos into the ranks.
I don’t normally side with Sylvanas on a lot, but looking at it from an overall basis - I agree with her on this one. Her choosing to ignore Kael’s letter was something that she was within her rights to do as she was the protector of Quel’Thalas. She was there, day in-day out, doing her duty for her people, whilst Kael’thas was in Dalaran. (we have to remember how he was received by the Elves upon his initial return to Quel’Thalas. It was cold.)
As they should be and rightly or wrongly, the decision on protecting the borders lies with the Ranger General. Lor’themar got told the same when Brightwing worked willingly with the Darkspear Shadowhunters and Silver Covenant Rangers.
Now, we can all have a preference to who we’d love to see work with the Farstriders. Personally, I’d like to see a return of the Thalassian Dark Rangers and continue the story of Velonara identifying as a sin’dorei and see a Dark Ranger/Blood Elf Farstrider union. I believe you have wanted to see more between the Farstriders and Nighthunters, but this is where we start getting into personal wishes.
(Yes, I know - what about the horde night elf dark rangers - I don’t much care for them, but I suppose, working with the Nightborne Nighthunters.)
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