AFFLICTION Talent review

Classes Warlock
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Taking aside shadowlands borrowed powers… too simple, not fun talents, most of the talents are static (dmg x, y, z), no strong synergy between talents, lack of complex passives to build power up during the combat…

Duration of Agony and Corruption should be longer from M+ perspective as baseline +10 sec each, now we are good cause there is agony conduit.

Rapture is bad in PvP, makes the UA → Fear breaking faster. Could be removed.

Row 1
Nigthlfall stack 2 times, but reworked after Drain Soul baseline.
Drain Life idea is ok.
Drain Soul baseline and new pet sacrifice talent in this row.

Row 2
Agony not bad but ramp up time should be same = 20 sec not 28 sec with 0% of Haste.
Corruption is boring as a spell in general, low dmg and no interactions. Maybe 30% slow effect baseline? It match to the name. Corruption talent is boring, it could increase slow up to 50% and make something additional.
Siphon Life to removed, make UA talent. It’s DOT row and UA have no any talent.

Row 3
Burning Rush to be removed, make talent for our 2 min def cooldown.
Fix mobility, make Demonic Circle work like instant Doors of Shadow.

Row 4
Total mess row.
Seed not best but only working in strong aoe. Seed should detonate Seed.
Phantom to be removed. New talent needed. Maybe UA cap up to 3 targets.
Vile Taint maybe apply also Agony? Slow part not needed.

Row 5
Darkfury also instant.
Mortal Coil is ok.
Aoe fear only used in pvp. Baseline talents are pve. Replace with Fear talent, feared target will not be running around and not enter combat.

Row 6
All is trash.
This is almost final row, the feeling of power need to be in those talents. All to be reworked.

Row 7
Last row also to be reworked.
Soul Conduit - move to row 6,
Creeping Death - move to row 6,
Dark Soul - Integrating with Darkglare will make it strong cd.
New last row talents?
Corrupting Leer is not bad to be a last row talent in case of AoE, bursty talent.
Wrath of Corruption is not bad to be last talent also, maintaining buff style.
Last can be Malefic Wrath for ST but time should be xtended.

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With pet sac on row 1, better mobility and stronger talents later you’re basically wanting to be a Mage.

Why not just reroll to a better class?

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What burst? You don’t use Darkglare for its damage, it does very little. The only reason to cast it is to extend all of your DOT’s. Corrupting Leer is pretty much worthless.

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Let’s everyone play mage cause affliction can not have “stronger talents” :slight_smile:

Dark Soul - Integrating with Darkglare will make it strong cd.

Corrupting Leer is not bad to be a last row talent in case of AoE, bursty talent.

After combining Darkglare with Dark Soul I did mean.

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That’s a bad idea, really bad. Having Dark Soul and DG together on a potential 1 minute or less CD is far too strong…

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Numbers are always tune-able :slight_smile: does not have to be 30%, maybe 20%
Or not 5 sec reduce time or 3 sec…

Those are only numbers which always can be changed

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Why, though? WTF?

DG and DSM are fine as they are CD wise.

8

Nah, same pick in all scenarios from BFA, overshadow other talents in same row.
DG is weak but always pop-up with DS… at least it could be tested how it will work in final.

Controversy changes are sometimes required, if not work it don’t have to go life.

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That’s just because the other 2 talents are bad/less useful. DSM is a perfect fit in that row, the other talents probably need swapping to other rows or being altered.

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Soooo…

Row 7
Soul Conduit - move to row 6,
Creeping Death - move to row 6,
Dark Soul - ok

New talents:
Wrath of Corruption is not bad to be last talent also, maintaining buff style.
Malefic Wrath for ST but time should be extended.

Is it?

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No, this one can probably just be changed to something else.

12

For sure the DOT duration should not be reduced even in current form…

Anyway…
Missing any UA or MRapture talents this expansion, looks like overlooked

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More like a execute, it would fit in the current meta. As more hp the target has lost the more dmg the dots deal.

Soul Conduit can be removed

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@faz what do you get if you fix all the issues of lock ? A mage XD

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In 6 row Soul Conduit could be worth to give it a chance…
6 row can be like “support” 7 row talent tree, if Malefic Wrath would be a talent it could be not bad choose at beginning of expansion with low Haste value.

For the sure, the point is that Affliction base toolkit skills are good, but most of the talent need to be reworked.

Both Seed and Rapture style of play should have their place in M+, up on the player and conditions. Seed can be more constant dps, Rapture more bursty…

Vile of Taint applying Agony would make this talent a relevant choice when dot spreading time is critical, low HP adds pop-up and you wanna nuke it down fast with Rapture.

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Everything is better than Soul Conduit even DG as talent… just remove it. There are enough old spells that work better as talents than this bulls*it.

Creeping Death as a ramp up dot dmg getting higher the more hp the target losses is even better, because it is good in aoe and ST.

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Lot of work need to be done… not fixable with minor changes…
When playing mage or shadow there is a feeling that Affliction is lacking of combat passives.

Siphon Life and Phantom is one of the reason of Rapture and Drain Soul heavy nerf, which hitted M+ alot…

What is opinion to keep baseline number of DOTs… Vile Taint as additional DOT is an option but it could also apply Agony just with full stacks to help Rapture balance a little better.

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nerf mr in 9.1 and up dmg mr in 9.2 with setbonus, genius blizzard

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idk just make drain soul baseline or something.

having no filler in pvp feels so scuffed lmao, literally haven’t pressed shadow bolt once in shadowlands in any form of pvp ever.

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