AH scams and buy orders

So right now the commodity AH is full of people who put 1 item at very low prices, sometimes few silver, and a whole lot of morons who dump their mats at this price which are instantly bought up the the scammer.

A way to solve this is through buy orders, it’s something people wanted for a long time and this would put a reasonable minimum price on these materials, therefore making these scams impossible.

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Tbh, Sniping doesn’t work on the Region Wide AH.

You can list something low, but before you have a chance to do anything someone else has already bought it. So there is alot less sniping attempts happening now than when it was realm-wide AH.

You just need to pay attention to the sell price when you’re listing your auctions.

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Check the AH, i followed serevite ore for less than 5 min, there are several people posting at 1.1 or 1.2 gold, when real price is 8g and i saw at least 2k ore sold at this price. That’s like 15k in less than 5 min, about 160k per hour, sure split among many snipers.
I don’t know what kind of addons or bots they’re using to snipe but this type of scamming is very very profitable.

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I know what’s going on. I use the AH enough.

I just keep a check on items that I list for sale.

So why would you say sniping doesn’t work?

Go on AH, put 1 piece of Ore on at 1g… it sells immediately, before you have even had a moment to think what you’re doing next, someone has already bought it up.

The reality is, there are thousands of people all across the European Servers using the AH at any one moment. Some of those people are selling, some of those people are buying, some of those people are looking for deals.

All that happens is somebody has bought it the item you listed and probably not someone who is trying to snipe, because everything just sells too quickly.

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Yeah and you put another.
I don’t have the setup required to hold this scam and i have no interest to do it, but this doesn’t mean the scam doesn’t work.
Like i said, in less than 5 min i seen over 2k serevite sell at 1g, people don’t look at the price and post at the lowest price and these scammers wouldn’t spend their whole time at AH if it wasn’t profitable.

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And then it sells immediately.

It’s impossible to refresh the AH fast enough in Region Wide AH for it to work properly.

I’m not deny that there could be bots over multiple accounts at play here. In which case they will be weedled out and banned eventually. You just need to note the players name and send an Email to the Hacks email address for them to investigate.

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You made me laugh, in what universe do you think that will ever happen?

Anyway it might be impossible for you, but right now, bots or not, a lot of people are using such baits to scam hundreds of thousands of gold per hour. Implementing a buy order system stops this.

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In the universe where I have seen the results.

No, a buy order system will be as much of a disaster as the Public Work Order system.

In that case you might as well just be listing those items at 1g.

I haven’t seen any results and i think you’re lying.

Because…? you identify as a contrarian?

Buy orders have no downside. They’ve been around in real markets and other games for decades.

oh he’s given up on a debate and now resorting to petty insults.

So “I need 10000 Rousing Order, and I want to pay 1g for them”.

…and?
someone else will create a buy order for 200 rousing for 2G each. Then someone else for 10G, etc until they reach roughly 80% of the cost of sell orders (entries currently on the AH).

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So reverse Auction house?

What’s wrong with the Auction house?

The problem is this will just be better for the buyer, not the seller. Just like Public Crafting Orders. Which have made Professions feel undervalued.

You think by simply disagreeing with everyone on the internet without arguments or any clue on the subject matter qualifies as a debate? grow up

And someone else will offer 2g, again more proof you have no clue what you’re arguing against.

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If I know the price of an item will drop to 60% of it’s current one within the next 4 days, I don’t want to log in at 3AM to snipe it (or use TSM). I could create a buy order for that amount, knowing it’s gonna drop eventually and the system buys it for me while I’m offline.

Plus it would make it impossible to list something for 1 silver as the system would instantly fill it into a buy order.

The seller (who gets a BOE from a raid) can go to the AH and either list it for 30k, then play the 1 silver undercut game for 10 days, or fill one of the buy orders whose price has been raised through market competition (buyers overbidding each other through buy orders).

Ofcourse, that was a debate is. When 2 different opinions hash out an idea and discuss it.

Needless, I’m just ignoring you because you can’t discuss like an adult.

You have no ideas, you just say the opposite of what people are posting.

Perfect, now go troll someone else’s thread.

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So now we’re asking for a Blizzard implemented Bot?

Although I have a better understanding of what you’re suggesting now. I think it’s a step to far with automation.

I think we’ll see how this goes when they make the adjustment to Public Work Orders next week. When they reduce from 20 to 4.

If it increases value of Public Crafts, then I’ll start to entertain your suggestion.

Otherwise, I’m not convinced with putting so much power into the Buyers hands. When you are selling an item, you’ll eventually find its value by listing it.

You could watch how the market levels itself out in the Region-Wide AH over past few weeks.

I was selling alot of Sophic Writs. I would buy Orders for X amount, Resonants for Y amount and sell everything for Z amount.

Now if someone reduced Z to Z-10, the market within 20 minutes would reduce X+Y to X+Y-10. Simply put, because Z became less valuable, it put less demand on X+Y, so they eventually just dropped in price until it became worth while buying them again.