You have NO understand of whatâs suggested. (yet youâre strongly against it)
There is no automation, itâs just a listing filled by the seller, itâs the exact same as how the AH works, one player makes a listing, another player accepts it.
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SO whatâs wrong with the current system?
If youâre looking for Cheaper Bulk buys, thatâs what Trade chat is for.
When you open the AH, it would have two identical sections for each item. The top one being the sell orders which are what we have now. The bottom one a list of entries of people wanting to buy the item. This would be present for every single item currently in the AH.
When someone lists an item (or modifies the price of one) the system does a check whether the cheapest sell order can fill the highest buy order.
Itâs not a bot or automation. Itâs just a system running in the background, like the dungeon finder. And relating it to work orders is an incorrect comparison since public work orders are heavily gimped and only available for certain items.
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noticed this myself, you need to keep an eye when posting stuff
First of all this is an improvement, nothing needs to be wrong with the current system.
Secondly, for the 3rd time, in less than 5 min some people who sold serevite ore got scammed for about 15k gold, thatâs something wrong and this improvement can fix.
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I compare it to the Public Crafting Order system, because it puts the power into the hands of the Buyer.
Which may work in the real world. But has a detrimental affect on the value of professions in the game.
Ultimately, it will make professions even less valuable.
But lets see how limitations go with the Public Crafting Orders.
This comparison doesnât work because in the public order system the âsellersâ(crafters) only have to do 3 clicks, which takes like 5 sec. With a buy order system you actually have to give up your items.
Basically imagine a public order system where the mats have to be supplied by the crafter, now nobody would fill the orders for 10g and the fee would be closer to the cost of the mats.
Thats not a scam. People are allowed to sell at whatever price they want. Nobody forced others to always sell at the lowest price. Things sell so fast since the ah is across all servers. I ussually just scroll down the list for the first 2000-4000 offered herbs, wich causes quite the price leap. And guess what after i post them they instantly start selling already if they are trade goods.
Things sell way too fast to snipe without a bot. So bot using is the main problem. However people just dumping their goods at the lowest price is just plain dumb. Undercutting others just wont make you sell things that faster. Every trade good you post pretty much sells within minutes anyway, unless you post at absurdly high prices
You are tricking people to sell their items at a fraction of market price, itâs a scam. I never said youâre not allowed to do it, but itâs still a scam.
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I dont do this because i dont have the patience to sit in front of the AH. But it is not tricking, nobody is forcing them to always sell at the lowest price. Like i said, it doesnt make things sell much faster since things sell so fast. Always selling at the lowest price is just being dumb. You do realize you can pick your own price to sell things as? It takes just a few seconds to look at the listed prices and quantity to know you probably should sell at the price in the middle of the list
I dont blame the people posting low at all, its not their fault people are just dumping their stuff onto the ah instead of taking a few second look at the prices
tricking isnât done by force, the fact that nobody forces the seller doesnât mean they are not being tricked
Again if you read my original post iâm not exculpating the sellers, but thatâs how scams work.
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I would hate for more stuff to be pushed onto the Work Order system. Unless they seriously overhaul it.
Itâs tedious having to find a crafter who can make something at the level you want and then have it fail a few times. All this expansion has done is drain me of gold.
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but like i said nobody is being tricked. Just dont be so dumb to dump your stuff on the ah without checking what you are. If you have a gold necklace irl you dont just sell it for 5 euro because you want quick money, because you know its worth more. If you decide to over it dirt cheap its your mistake. Just because someone else might offer it that low doesnt mean you have to.
If someone can convince you, through various means, to sell that gold necklace for 5 euro then you got tricked, this is what the word âtrickâ means and thatâs what makes it a scam.
And seriously? this is your big objection to my suggestion, semantics?
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Itâs not sniping though. I post ore at normal prices and theyâre still typically bought in seconds.
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Set 1 price for an item and the problems of undercutting or asking insane prices will be over.
This is easier said than done.
First, there is a very high chance (specially on high pop realms) that the item is bought before other people dump their mats at the low price.
Second, even if people dump their mats, their is also a high chance that someone else will snipe it at the lower price faster.
If itâs 20 snipers (for example) probably they are much more, then itâs 8K per hour (or less). I can make more than that in 5 minutes from a single crafting order.
Yeah iâm not saying itâs easy and iâm not excluding the use of bots or some scripts to bypass blizzardâs UI cause for some average joe thereâs no chance to buy those in time.
I managed to buy some of the 1 item listings and identified 4 different sellers, but still the fact that they keep doing this and throwing 7g every few seconds leads me to believe there is a considerable return.
And even if it gets to the point where this isnât profitable, the main reason is the competition, once some snipers leave for better gold making opportunities this makes it more profitable for the snipers that remain so thereâs always incentive for this behavior.
Stop defending dude. Its work easy for them. If u use a lot of AH i do it for month. For all awakened orders. For every materials and stuff. Even they make video in YouTube for it but ppl dont get that they cant do that with empty hand they use bot for this and a lot if add-ons that help the process. I calculate for a awakened order for 1hour they win more than 10 million gold less than an hour. So stop saying that they cant do that. The fact that ppl like u and me cant buy that fast its not means its impossible.
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Well I hope you report them if they put this information on Youtube.
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