Oh thats literally me. I don’t scam people though, they are free to buy that piece of cloth for 10 silver 
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Erm, hate to tell you this, but there is no such thing as a ‘real price’ for items.
And has billyblue has told you, someone posting something for cheap is more likely to lose that item than gain everyone elses.
I understand what your saying, that people are morons who just put things on AH without checking how much they would vendor for, but thats their loss really. just wish I could figure out the add-ons so I could snipe 'em myself. 
yes and i am saying nobody is being tricked if someone else posts something at a very low price. Things at medium prices sell pretty much instantly. Like i said if you sell something for dirt cheap without looking a tthe market you are not being tricked. you are just incredibly stupid and have 0 commercial sense.
Your whole arguement is peoiple post things at low prices oh no i am being tricked. Nobody says you have to dump your crap at the lowest prices. You decide to do that, nobody said you have to sell at a lower price or made you believe that. Thats your own stupidity
You can say that over and over again but he wont get that. He will keep claiming how he got tricked by evil people selling things at a low price wich put a gun to his head and then made him post even lower than that or at the same price.
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I mean I just look at what I’m selling and if it’s x gold cheaper than the next big I just click on the next bid and sell at that price.
I know what you’re saying and you’re objectively wrong, yet you seem incapable of accepting this reality and you’re still here repeating the same idiotic arguments as before.
Oh if YOU do that then it’s all fine and there’s no problem.
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In a word “Automated tools” same as botting Gannet
whos the one unable to accept reality here? i’m not the only one saying things dont sell that much faster if you constantly dump it at the lowest price. If you always try to undercut people and post at the lowest price without looking at the prices at all then you deserve get paid less for whatever you decided to dump on the ah.
Nobody is being tricked, just dont dump your stuff onto the ah without thinking.
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You are, obviously, since you still refuse to open a dictionary and see what the word “trick” mean.
Also you keep telling me to not try to undercut or sell faster, which is weird because this has nothing to do with this thread and leaves me to believe you didn’t even read my post or have any clue what this discussion is about.
Lastly, do you believe that if i use different words to describe this behaviour, it would somehow change the behavior or make this problem go away? Your vehement opposition to my use of a word seems like a very strange hill to make a fool of yourself on
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lols i sold stuff for 1 silver ea on AH …
then define it to me.
How are people being tricked/forced to sell their stuff low. They choose to undercut literally every single person wich has listed items of that sort on the ah. They choose to be scummy, so i have no pity for them if they CHOOSE to dump their stuff on the ah for the lowest price.
Theres no trick involved. No body put a gun on their head to sell it at the price of a single item sold lower than everything single else. All you do is insult but you never explain how people are being tricked.
With your logic of being tricked everyone in the lfg tab also should be punished. How dare they trick me into doing a 7 key while i could have a joined a 20 key. they are scamming me of my time. Its not me not paying attention and not being patient , right?
Stop dumping your stuff at the lowest price like a braindead zombie. If you are constantly dumping your stuff at the cheapest price you are scum who tries to destroy the ah prices and constantly bringing the prices down. Stop destroying the economy. Things dont sell faster that way since the ah is all servers wide. All you do is make sure you get lesser gold despite because things dont sell that much faster this way.
There is no difference if someone else drove the price much lower or you always dumping your crap at the lowest price every single time. You are both doing the same thing.
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Yea i noticed this trick few weeks ago
Learned it the hard way to pay more attention before posting stuff
the system will default to the lowest posted price
So people undercut considerably with just 1 ore or 1 awakened and then instantly buy your stuff at the low price.
I wouldn’t count on Blizzard doing anything about it
You gotta do like me and pay more attention.
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Sorry man, but do you even know how the AH works? Because in order to explain why this is a trick, you need some basic understanding of the auction house and this type of comment leaves me to believe you don’t.
Calling anyone who lists at the default price “scummy undercutters who destroy the economy” is wrong on so many levels that i’m not sure you’re being serious right now, this is blurring the line between extreme stupidity and trolling and i’m no longer sure which is it.
Again tricking doesn’t require a gun to your head or any kind of force, i already explain this to you but it doesn’t seem to penetrate that thick skull of yours, it would be much easier if you would read up on what a trick is.
As for my explanation, it’s in the first two posts, which you didn’t read and also explained by the poster above.
What? Who exactly are you arguing with? I don’t know what you think my logic is, or that you even have the capability of understanding logic, but nobody is calling for anyone to be punished.
And after all those accusations you threw at me with no basis in reality, i think it’s time you ask yourself what are you even doing here.
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why dont you understand that the ah is a free market. You can list it for any price you want. Things sell fast regardless if you undercut people or not.
You choose to dump items at the lowest price listed, nobody tricked or forced you to do that. You could have posted it at a higher price or a even much muuuuch lower price. But you actively choose not to. You blindly followed someone else wich has all the right to sell things low like you do. There is no trick involved, no force used. You actively made the decision to dump things on the ah without any effort.
Why is there no trick involved? You have acces to a clear list of the prices. You could easily see within seconds that the lowest price is much lower than the second lowest. But you choose not to take a look at the prices, you choose to just dump it at the lowest price. You had acces to all the information, nobody tricked you. You made a dumb and lazy decision wich got you a terrible price for your items. but nobody tricked you. You made the dumb decision all on your own due to your laziness
You keep telling me that i dont get it. But you are just playing the victim because you made dumb financial decisions . Man, i hope people never put you in charge of anything financial/business related irl. You dont have to use the same prices as someone wich offers something at insane low prices.
People complaining about their own dumb mistakes reminds me so much of people wich sell items on the ah for less than the vendor price. Why would you do that, dont you have common sense?
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This is why i love the forums.
Because you don’t and you have no clue what you’re talking about. What makes you think i’m playing the victim? What dumb financial decision or dumb mistake did i make?
Please quote me, list my exact words that show the dumb decision or mistake i made.
The issue is that you can’t even conceive someone pointing out a problem that doesn’t affect them directly.
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If you think someone posting stuff at a very low price is a scam meant to trick people. then yes i would call that playing the victim. Like i said everyone has acces to the list of prices and how much of each are listed for that price.
I have seen people undercut with a big ammount even when its not someone posting a single one. i have seen amounts of 500 go for a very low price. People dumping their stuff will dump it without lookin no matter what the price is. Thats not being tricked that just being lazy and dumb.
And the problem you are pointing out is not a problem at all if you use the slightest bit of common sense. Nobody forced them to dump their stuff on the ah without watching. They had acces to a clear list of quanity and prices. They choose not to use that.
The only problem is some people being extremely dumb and lazy and then coming to the forums crying about a scam despite having a literal list of all listed goods next to the tab wich lets you post things.
If i try to sell something valuable irl or in game i check the prices for it and dont accept the first person offering a dried up turd as payment. thats common sense . If you cant do this then you probably shouldnt be buying or selling things
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So because i think someone is posting one item at low price to trick people into posting all their items at that same low price which then can be bought by that someone at a fraction of market value, that makes me a victim?
How exactly have you managed to make less sense when you had none to begin with?
Just because everyone has access to information doesn’t mean it’s not a scam. Most scams rely on the victims not noticing small details that would give it away. This is the second false assumption you make about scams, why do you still refuse to do a google search and learn what a scam is?
Yes lazy and dumb are requisites for this TRICK to work, the fact that someone loses something of value due to their laziness or stupidity doesn’t mean they were not tricked.
Both can be true in the same time and again, these bad arguments could have easily been avoided.
Again with the forcing argument but that aside, you don’t get to say what is or isn’t a problem. Something can be a problem for one person and a benefit for another, it’s all relative.
Let’s say, for example, that you would develop a brain tumor, that would be a problem for you and maybe people close to you, but not for me, i’d be fine with it and probably find it amusing.
The thing is that you have this primitive thinking where you perceive something as a problem only when it affects you directly and if not, then you think it’s not a problem. You’re unable to think about the experience of others or the bigger picture. It’s the same reason why you assumed that because i started this topic then i must have been personally affected.
Lastly, can we agree that you dug yourself too deep now and your ego won’t let you admit this is a scam?
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No we can’t because its not a scam. People could have priced it however they wanted.
If you have a pawnshop and an antique shop next to eachother while you want to sell a clock. Why sell it at the pawnshop for 10 bucks for quick money if you know you can get a hundred at the antique shop, but it will take longer because someone takes a proper look at it.
The pawnshop did not scam or trick you, you choose to sell it at a low price for quick money.
This is how it is with people dumping their goods. They are not being tricked or forced. They just choose to dump it at a low price. Despite the options to compare what youd get is there and you could get more by just waiting a few minutes longer before it gets sold.
I have no mercy or compassion for people acting dumb for a quick buck and then playing the victim role when the figured out they could have gotten more than just the first number they saw.
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This is just another form of the “nobody is forcing them to sell at that price” argument. Do you think that by rephrasing it i wouldn’t notice you make the same bad argument for the 4th? or 5th time?
Your analogy is bad and it suggests you don’t understand how the AH works, which at this point it’s probably true.
They’re not doing this on purpose, they’re being tricked.
They aren’t playing the victim, you probably don’t even know what this phrase means.
And in most cases, they don’t even figure out they could have gotten more, they just get scammed without even knowing it was a scam. Something i suspect happens a lot, especially to people of your intellectual caliber, but ignorance is bliss i suppose.
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whatever man. You can try to shove responsibilty away from you. But you are responsible for what you sell and for how much. If you take at most trade goods. yes sometimes theres 1 item there for a low price. But these items are generally just 1 or 2 g cheaper than the prices people are already dumping on. Until you reach the normal price wich generally has a quantiy of 15000 or more.
If that person selling 1 items is "scamming "you then literally everyone else wich is undercutting the main price is scamming people into trying to sell lower. And these are people selling it in quantities of 1000.
If people are not allowed to undercut with 1 item. then dont allow people to do it with alot of items as well. People will sell at way too low prices regardless of your nonsense of people "tricking"them by selling 1 item lower than others.
In the end the bait often is not much lower in price than stuff people are already braindead dumping on the ah
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right now on the ah. scalebelly mackerel for example. Yes someone is posting something with a lower price with just 1 of them. but its just 1 g less than the next price. so its not like its a huge loss if you were to sell at that price.
Same with other items. sometimes the price just takes a huge leap because of idiots just dumping stuff on the ah dirtcheap. And thats not even a item where a "scammer"is baiting people. People do this on their own as well even without the purpose of trying to get others to post low. Might as well ban these people well for ruining the ah price. because braindead ah dumpers will follow their lead just like the baiters.
The solution is simple dont just braindead dump things on the ah. no need to blame others for your extremely stupid business sense. Because some people will undercut heavily no matter what the intention is.
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