People telling me about the soul of art, and what not.
I am sorry. But what are you guys going on about? As I said above: I once saw a AI-generated picture and it was one of the most beautiful pictures I ever saw. So much so that I can even remeber, how it looked like after a year(which is something for me)
Who are you guys to deny me the right to enjoy AI-generated Art? I didn’t even know it was AI-generated until somebody pointed it out. I still enjoyed it, even if, as some of you say it lacks the Human “soul” or “touch”, or what not.
And it “stealing” from artists. Well. I don’t see Artist crediting van Gogh, Picasso or any other great painter of the past when they give a twist to those art style’s to make their own art. Hell, I don’t even see people credit anime studio’s when they drawn their anime profiles in said studio’s anime-style either… So whats the difference exactly?
Them stealing people’s online data is a bad thing, I agree on that. But AI drawing inspiration from the internet filled with art is hardly different , imo, then a painter drawing inspiration from a Picasso, or van Gogh art piece which hangs in a museum.
It’s fundamentally different and it’s insulting toward human artists that you don’t appreciate that. AI doesn’t “draw inspiration”, it steals. Human artists need to practice and refine their craft, spend hours and hours and hours learning, improving, and developing their style.
My Brother in capitalist hellscape called reality*
Simple solution: They shouldn’t post AI art. Also way to miss the point of my post.
Can you write by hand? Draw a line? A stick figure?
If your answer to any of these is yes congratulations you are an artist even if not by proffesional trade. Anyone can draw your skill merely depends on how much time and effort you put to it.
There’s no gatekeeping in the broader art community, a simple google search or looking into tutorial tags on art sites gives me PLENTY of FREE RESOURCES TO TEACH ME HOW TO DRAW.
Art is a luxury friend. That said nobody is stopping you from taking a screenshot of your character and using a filter which is a staple in most (including free) programs and post that.
Depends, AI could be used to quicken a process, find a colour palette faster etc instead we got plagiarism and art theft, which is what many have an issue with.
Not exactly no, the problem is how the AI is trained and how capitalism* just see it as a means to cut corners to save a few $100-1000 dollars here and there. That is the real threat AI poses to people in the creative field.
*Capitalism as in greedy CEOs et al with no idea wtf an artist does.
I will preface by saying that I don’t make art for a living. If I did however, I would expect the ethics of my work being stolen by AI, thus potentially losing out on future earnings through job postings or commissions disappearing, to be at the forefront of my mind. No one wants to literally be the starving artist.
The “what is art?” conversation comes across as… I don’t want to say unimportant, because it’s an interesting discussion to have, but I would certainly call it secondary to the more immediate problems AI may cause to human artists. Namely, their passion and talent no longer being sustainable as a livelihood.
Yes, but I believe some have already been upgraded and no longer have that issue. As time goes on, I can see the hand issue to disappear completely.
And as I mentioned in earlier comment, there have already been cases of actual artists having their pictures deleted because the mod thought it was done by an AI, followed by the mod insulting the artist’s art style when shown proof that it was in fact made by a human.
As has been said before, it is very, very hard if not impossible to discern the difference between the learning and inspiration and goal setting of an AI from that of a human. Mostly because we do not even understand ourselves or the nature of intelligence(s) all that well.
What is the difference that everyone can agree upon is time. Modern AI can produce art pieces that took you 10 years to transfer from inspiration to fine motor handwork onto the canvas in a matter of seconds.
If instead of an AI this would be possible for a human, we would not be having this conversation and nobody would be calling it stealing either. Then it would simply be inspiration and skill.
But since it is done by a machine instead of a person, different rules and views apply to it. But to what extend?
I think its pretty contrarian and disingenuous to make the argument that so long as the AI art is capable of “slipping under the radar” and looking like a parody of Human art that it becomes okay because its hard to “spot”.
A human being is just that, a being - a being that based on their life experiences will transfer some of the things that has transformed them into who they are onto what they are creating.
Personally I “understand the nature of intelligence” enough to come to the conclusion that a machine or a program can’t feel and thus cannot replicate that which should be considered real art because it is, at the end of the day, not human.
It’s not a matter of being able to tell though. It’s the fact that once it becomes apparent that it wasn’t made by someone but by something, it loses a lot of its depth.
