AI art and AA

Which is another problem now being created due to the illicit theft of thousands of human art pieces every second by an unthinking, unfeeling machine.

Its almost like there’s a direct link to the AI being the problem :thinking:

Adding to the Photography:

I’ve worked in photography and with professional photographers for a number of years now, and have even done occasional galleries for my national basketball team; it is absolutely insane to me not a single photography judge caught the several immediate problems in this image. In any competition I’ve been in this would not have made it through the qualification rounds, nevermind into a winning position imo.

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And how do you intend to make sure this doesn’t happen in hypothetical (and highly unlikely, as per Acrona’s explanation) case that AA bans AI art?

And a good chunk of prominent proffesional artists straight up said the mod was an idiot and not knowing what he was doing, so the average reddit mod tbh.

I don’t think so.

If someone for example proved to me that the Fresco’s made by Michelangelo in St Peters Church in vatican were in fact made by a timetraveling AI just for funs, I would still appreciate their beauty (and I have).

Just as I can appreciate the beautiful land up here in Norway, like Trollsting, which has had nothing to do with humans, but is great to look at all the same.

So how do you suggest we make sure no Reddit mod moment happens on AA if AI art were to be banned?

Perhaps. Perhaps not.

All the same, it was able to fool several people

Oh I dunno… Maybe asking actual artists or for a process file/vid like a reasonable person.

You’re just strawmanning for the sake of it at this point with your lukewarm takes.

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It’s almost like AI-produced images are usually harvested from Deviantart and other pages that have set up a data-collecting system that you have to actively opt out of to not have your art fed to the AI engine, thus making AI-processed images similar to 2000s internet-styled art pieces from those sites’ old, abandoned accounts by design, and not human art looking like AI.

It’s almost like since January, Stable Diffusion and Midjourney (the AI image-processing tools) have been in a massive law court case because of copyright infringement.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/16/23557098/generative-ai-art-copyright-legal-lawsuit-stable-diffusion-midjourney-deviantart

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/first-ai-art-generator-lawsuits-threaten-future-of-emerging-tech

https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2023/03/28/ai-and-art-how-recent-court-cases-are-stretching-copyright-principles

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They also datascrape personal site portfolios unrelated to any of the big art focused websites btw

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What if it’s not the artist posting it but someone who ordered the art and for one reason or the other, they don’t have the progress pics?
What if it was one of those adoptions I’ve seen people do? Or some contest win?
Would then the person be at the mercy of the artist to provide the pictures to AA team? And would AA team even have the time and energy to deal with it?

Getting angry because someone disagreed with you, I see.

They should ask the artist then, simple. If they fail to provide the artist then mods can remove it if they deem it AI generated.

Reverse image search exists and if it’s a common adopt or doll commish it’s usually VERY easy to find the artist/base.

They should, yes.

Not really, a smidgen annoyed at the constant strawman and willfull ignorance, but far from angry.

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Mercury is apparently in retrograde.

I guess that’s enough to make the best of us forget about human dignity and soul.

“People should do more work for free because I want them to.”

“If people disagree with me they’re strawmaning and being ignorant.”

Let me put it differently. I appreciate good art. I don’t care if it comes from Human artist or is AI-generated.

Luckily artists always say that art is subjective Thats why you have art people dislike and art people like.

Also what is “drawing inspiration” according to you? Don’t most artist start out by drawing inspiration from already existing art, and then giving their own spin to it(what from what I understand AI does with its art aswell), and thats why we have the different artstyles?

Yea and AI doesn’t need to do that, so? Because AI doesn’t need to spend hours in learning and refining, its now not considered art?

I hope you’re going to be this insulted when my job as a soldier gets replaced by robots(or AI) aswell. Because I also spend hours and hours a year improving and developing my skill for my job, but somehow… I doubt you will.

Welcome to most jobs in a capitalistic society…:weary:

Also I won’t burn my hand on the whole data-collecting part of it, because I really do not know how that works in the grandscheme of things. I leave that to smarted minds like Acrona and others who have more stakes in that.

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That’s how some algorithm’s start too. Being based on experiences it is in.

There was dor example an Algorithm that’s purpose was to play tetris- And initially it did horrible. Slowly, it learned, until it could “beat” the game.

Only that one day when they launched it, it quit the game. Because tetris has no end, therefore it could not win, so the only winning move was not to play.

The difference between human and algorithmic learning is that you can seamlessly copy multiple learning experiences under one AI, and you do not need to start from 0, like humans do. You can keep honing and updating the ai, and then upload always the latest version.

So clearly AI can learn much like humans. It’s just that we do not really understabd learning and human mind either.

If we did, we could eradicate all learning problems and disorders because we could just download all the info into our minds.

Until we are able to do that, we so not understand even our own intelligence or minds. Baby steps.

Feeling is something you attach to a thing. That’s what the word means. You feel something- And that feeling can be invoked by both human and non-human things.

Welcome to capitalism!

Not really, you’ve been disproven several times from several people yet continue with your strawman arguement and willfull ignorance.
Good day sir and or ma’am

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Here:


In an ideal world your job wouldn’t need to exist, neither would the war-faring robots and/or AI.

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And the AI hasn’t felt anything while making the “art”.

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AI art isn’t art.
It’s theft in a weird dress.

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The art does not feel for you. You feel for the art.

The only difference is that for the first time ever we can have art created that is made by something that does not feel or understand.